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. Do preferred rates pay off total invested capital or off total invested capital less the placement fee. For example, if there is a 5% placement fee on a 1 million dollar investment, does the preferred rates pay off the $1 million or 950K.

  1. Is everything going forward based off the $1 million or the $950K

  2. Assume a 8% preferred and a 60/40 split there after. Year 1 has a 20% return off of $1 million. So 200k for distribution. 8% preferred gets 80k. Then the 60/40 splits are 72k and 48k. Does that 72k get paid out as a divided, and the investor base investment remains at $1 million or does that 72k reduced the based investment. Basically, does the money distributed over the preferred rate go to paying down the investment or is it just an additional return.

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  1. Pref returns pay off invested capital - $1 MM here. Also, placement fee would be over and above $1 MM, i.e., invested capital = $1 MM, capital call / drawdown = $1.05 MM.

  2. $1 MM

  3. Pref returns are just like loans with flexible repayment. E.g. on a $1 MM investment @ 8% pref, interest accrued in year 1 = $80k. If Year 1 has a surplus of only $80 k, the "principal" remains @ $1 MM and you're entitled to another 80k at the end of yr 2. If Year 1 has a surplus of $100 k, 20k of "principal" is retired, so the "principal" gets reduced to $980k. If Year 1 has no surplus, the "principal" increases to $1.08 MM.

 

Forgot to mention, equity kickers like the 60/40 split would be after the entire "principal" on the 8% pref is retired and are additional returns

 
LAHomesSo in year 2 if the principal gets reduced to 980, is the pref calculated off the 980 or 1MM?

Pref calculated off the 980K

 
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LAHomesSo in year 2 if the principal gets reduced to 980, is the pref calculated off the 980 or 1MM?

Pref calculated off the 980K

The pref is always calculated on the "principal"

 

What investment are you making that has 20% cash yield in the first year?? I want in.

The structure of the payments depends on the waterfall that is set up you would need to read the shareholders or JV agreement.

Typically you would pay the pref coupon, then any accrued pref, then the principal and then you would do the incentive split.

As someone mentioned, pref is paid on the $1m and the 5% fee is a cost at day 1. The investor doesn't want to pay their own placement fee and the operator usually has to pay it separately.

 

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