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ignore title... sweatshop, culture is awful, folks at every level are miserable - do not go

 
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listen to the capital allocators podcast with their CEO. Bruh talking about Monte Carlo simulations and shit

 

Yikes, is there anyone who has a positive opinion on culture/experience/performance? (Evaluating possible ASO offer) 

 

These guys are super old school (maybe thinking about the flagship folks only).  Tend to suck the air out of a room.  They probably have mahogany paneling all over their walls and sit at massive desks that fill 80% of a room with secret mirrors installed to check themselves out.  There are probably cameras in the restrooms to make sure dress code is respected too. 

 

Tons of junior attrition on the flagship team recently (like 50% of the top bucket associates/sr associates) causing the rest to get crushed by mid levels - from a friend who’s there now 

 

When you ask people what a JAMMBO looks like: Charlesbank is one of the first names that pop up alongside AEA, Providence, Onex, MDP, AmSec. Will probably struggle in the future since they have absolutely no differentiation. The only firm in that JAMMBO legacy UMM space that is even trying to pivot is THL, not sure what these funds are doing. Think their returns are 3rd quartile for their latest fund which is still better than the other names I listed above. 

 

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When you ask people what a JAMMBO looks like: Charlesbank is one of the first names that pop up alongside AEA, Providence, Onex, MDP, AmSec. Will probably struggle in the future since they have absolutely no differentiation. The only firm in that JAMMBO legacy UMM space that is even trying to pivot is THL, not sure what these funds are doing. Think their returns are 3rd quartile for their latest fund which is still better than the other names I listed above. 

Curious on your thoughts around their ability to fundraise as I believe they're the only group on your list that has been raising larger and larger successive funds? 

 

Agreed with both here in the sense that Charlesbank is quintessential JAMMBO but also has had decent fundraising progress (though imagine it’s a bit of a slog). I think they frame themselves as “a safe pair of hands” given their low historical loss ratios though I think their lagging consumer investments will probably hurt those.

I imagine a fine place as a VP / Principal though given the average tenure of some of their MDs path to promotion is probably going to be tough.

 

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