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Insight has to be up there - don't associates get carry vested over couple of years or smth

 

No lol, not all groups are comped the same

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What are your thoughts on funds like Vista, Thoma, and Clearlake? They’ve scaled very quickly and have always promoted heavily from within.

However they are either an MF/approaching the mega scale and becoming more of AUM herders than pure return plays. How should incoming associates/junior talent view such places?

More like a BX/KKR where this is a phenomenal brand and I can exit anywhere, since there’s no path to the top, or like this is still a very solid fund I can make it up the ranks? Perhaps a hybrid of both?

 

Pretty much any privately owned MF. So, go to the likes of H&F, TB, CD&R, WP, Vista, SL, you’re gonna get $360k+ for ASO1. Some of these will distribute $400k+ on good years.

Then, the publicly owned large AUM firms like BX, KKR, APO will also get you to that $360k+ range.

Expect the rest to pay lower, around or below $350k. Firms like Carlyle are paying $315-340 nowadays for ASO1. The top UMMs are around $325-350k.

 

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