Why did you choose PE over VC?
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PE work and culture seemed more linked to what I enjoyed throughout my previous careers (mostly banking and a bit of consulting), whereas VC relatively seemed more like betting on one mega hit with more startup-like culture, which may not be true since I never worked at VC, but that was my thought flow.
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Invest in proven/profitable business models
Less sourcing / talking to YC grads. More time for modeling & financial analysis (some people hate sourcing)
More operating exposure/ experience, as PE firms are usually taking majority stakes in companies
I think VC is great as a Partner. Do you think it is possible to move from PE to VC even after 10+ years in the industry?
I’m 25 years old so please take this with a grain of salt:
“PE” and “VC” are too broad to give you a straight answer. Moving from late stage software buyouts to late stage software vc? Sounds pretty easy imo. Moving from a PE firm doing local restaurant roll ups to an early stage vc? Sounds impossible.
It all depends on your relationships and experience. When moving around at the senior level, think of yourself as an individual business and where you want to work as your platform. An individual with deep knowledge and connections in education could join a fund to focus on EdTech as an example.
I am currently in IB, but I did a long-term internship in UMM PE and a summer internship at a $200m VC fund. In my very limited experience, here are some of the main differences I noticed.
- VC firms often make investments in firms that are in a very early stage. As a consequence of that, there are not a lot of historical financials to analyze. Forecasting also becomes a lot more difficult / unreliable when you don't really have any historical growth / margin trends to consider. With that said, in my experience PE is much more heavy on the financial modeling side.
- VC is very much a people-based business. An investment decision often comes down to whether you trust the entrepreneur and his/her ability to execute. You often source deals based on connections. There's very limited public information on companies so you are also dependent on connections to get information. Compare this to PE where the companies are often mature enough to not be dependent on the founder / CEO. In PE, you can often just replace management if you are not happy with them. Moreover, you get a ton of inbounds from investment banks, so you are not as dependent on relationships to generate deals.
- In PE, you own a majority stake in the firms you invest in. As a result, you can tell management to do whatever you want them do. If they don't do it, you can just replace them. In VC, you most often do not own a majority stake and in the really "hot" companies that attract a lot of investors, you will often own a very small stake. As you do not have enough votes, situations will often occur where you can not force your will through. Getting your will through will require you to build trust with management and be very skilled with people. Once again, I think that VC is a very people-based business.
- There is a more diverse and laid-back culture in VC. I think that cultures at a firm are very dependent upon what type of people you hire. In PE, you will have a very large portion of ex-bankers and some ex-MBB consultants. Bankers are used to extreme hours and most banks have a pretty hard and cold culture. As a result of that, the hours in PE are long and the culture is rarely amazing. VC recruits people from all kind of backgrounds. You will have entrepreneurs, people with industry backgrounds, bankers, consultants etc. As such, the culture and hours are often better.
- VC requires you to understand products and markets to a much greater extent than PE. In PE, you deal with companies that have a proven product and business model. That is not the case within VC. In my experience, a great deal of time is spent on understanding the product, testing the product, and understanding the market of that product.
Based on that analysis, what career path are you looking at long-term?
I'm very interested in growth equity and VC. I think that working with tech companies would be extremely interesting given the impact new technology has on companies, individuals, and society as a whole. It would also be a lot of fun to work with more growth-oriented firms where you often have very charismatic and driven entrepreneurs still running the companies. Personally, I think that VC / growth equity seems far more interesting than buying some business services company at 8x EBIT, doing 30 add-ons at 5x EBIT, and increasing margins from 5% to 7% over a 5-year period. The WLB is also important to me as I want to have time to pursue other interests further down the line.
At the same time, I am not sure that I have the required skillset for it. I'm in a more traditional group at GS / MS / JPM in Europe and have no prior experience in tech except from my VC internship. The VC and growth equity industry is also so much smaller in Europe so there are fewer spots available. As a result of that, recruiters can be quite picky and choose people from TMT groups.
Just chiming in to say you’ve made some really great points here and I think you hit the nail on the head broadly between VC and PE.
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