Experienced hire career pivot query - UK CRE
Looking for some advice from the forum as I consider potential pivot avenues. For context I’m 30, based in London and have been in the Investment management industry for 7 years. Top 10 uni and hold the CFA charter. Looking for advice on feasibility of a couple of pivots / how far back I may need to step, and whether I should expand scope of thinking. Thanks in advance.
Background - Joined a UK traditional Asset Manager as a grad, managed to get hired into their Private CRE debt team. First two years spent in a hybrid Loan Asset Management / product specialist & IR role, with the final two and a half focused on the latter given team resource and opportunity set as we geared up for a new fundraise. Enjoyed the experience - close team so sat in on all the IC’s and encouraged to opine, and enjoyed pitching the product when on roadshows/ calls with the PM - however felt like there was limited scope for growth in that role sitting in the investment team, and the environment dramatically declined by the time I left.
I Moved to a PE MM manager the end of last year - comp and title upgrade, manager responsibility and wanted to see how the role may differ in a more Alts firm environment. What it’s ultimately done is confirm to me that I have no interest in proceeding with the path any longer (particularly given I’ve lost the client facing aspect) given I’m 1. neither the one holding the relationship, nor 2. the one who actually has the underlying expertise (investment team) that institutional investors ultimately look for. My gut tells me I’d prefer to develop the latter and work on transactions at this point - regardless of where career takes me in the future to come.
As a result I’m considering pivot options. If I stay within the investment industry, then the paths for consideration I currently have are
Look to transition into a CRE investment role accepting I’ll be shifting back a level or two. Currently refreshing financial modelling skillset with a well known course. Obviously aware the lack of deal experience will count against me, however hoping the RE knowledge and experience built up sitting in a fund for most of the career will help. I’m also less bothered by the prestige of the firm (realistically wouldnt pursue top Alts names anyway) and would consider a hybrid role if it helped with getting the foot in the door.
2. Move to a CRE firm to work in a capital markets function (most likely debt related given prior background). The broker role has appealed before and friends at my past and present work have stated they think I’d be a good fit given the technical and relationship angle. Only flip side for me is that I’ve heard the big name shops hours are brutal and it’s very sharp elbowed (Eastdil, JLL, CBRE). Obviously I’ve been used to longer hours, albeit not to the extent consistently that I’ve heard associates have to put in at certain names (more akin to IB) .I queried whether going back and taking a masters in RE would be beneficial - but the investment/ deal team members I’m friends with thought my experience in a RE Team already (and CFA) would basically mean I’d learn very limited and wouldn’t be worthwhile unless I wanted to retrain as a MRICS surveyor/ move into RE investment sales. I’d also be 31 starting it.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of your situation and potential pivot strategies:
1. Transitioning into a CRE Investment Role
2. Moving to a CRE Capital Markets Function
3. Pursuing a Master’s in Real Estate
General Advice
In summary, transitioning into a CRE investment role or a capital markets function are both feasible paths. Your decision should hinge on your preference for transactional work versus a more relationship-driven role. Avoid the master’s unless absolutely necessary, and instead, double down on networking and skill-building to make your pivot.
Sources: Private Equity vs. Venture Capital in 2018, Career Advice: Acquisitions vs. Development, Thoughts on CRI (Chartered Realty Investor) designation?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/real-estate/can-you-make-a-career-in-cre-capital-markets?customgpt=1, So you want to work in CRE Debt? Here are the options...
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