Need career advice. I have 6 years in CRE in lending at large banks. Salary has stalled despite promotions. What are my exit opportunities.

I have 6 years of experience in CRE lending at the large banks, BMO, JP, etc. When I was shopping myself out as an analyst I originally wanted to be in an aquistions role, but the banks took me and much like the current market it was tough breaking in so I took the role. Now I feel stuck as my current role was supposed to be temporary but then COVID and this environment hit. I have 7 years in CRE. 1 year as an investment sales analyst then I moved to the banks because my team started to struggle. I have done portfolio management at the bank for a four years and lending for two. I am currently a Senior Underwriter leaving my lender role to dodge lender layoffs.

What are some exit opportunities for me outside the banks and what’s realistic given I am 35? I want out of the banks as they are constantly consolidating and I’m tired of surviving multiple layoffs and feeling underpaid. My goal long term in several years is to make $300k base. As a Senior Underwriter my current comp all in is $150k. I’d be happy to even clear closer to $180. I have had to fight for that $150 salary temporarily leaving my market for two years and then moving home. My home market is Chicago and I am experiencing offers that are at or lower then my current role from position title to salary as I try to move back. I’m willing despite feeling sick to my stomach about it to take a lower salary just to move home because I don’t like where I temporarily moved. However, I want to know there is a plan here if I do that.



 

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of your situation and potential exit opportunities:

1. Exit Opportunities Outside of Banks

  • Principal Side Roles (Acquisitions, Asset Management, Development):

    • Transitioning to the principal side is a common goal for those in CRE lending. Your experience in underwriting and portfolio management is highly transferable, especially if you’ve worked on diverse property types. Highlight your deal experience and ability to structure loans, as these skills are critical in acquisitions and asset management.
    • However, breaking into acquisitions at 35 may require a step back in title or compensation initially. Consider targeting firms in Chicago that value your lending background, such as smaller developers or investment shops.
  • Debt Funds or Private Equity Real Estate (PERE):

    • Debt funds could be a natural fit given your lending experience. These roles often involve underwriting and structuring loans, but with a more entrepreneurial and higher-compensation potential compared to traditional banks.
    • PERE firms may also value your lending expertise, especially if you can demonstrate an understanding of equity investments and the ability to evaluate deals from both a debt and equity perspective.
  • Real Estate Investment Sales or Brokerage:

    • While you’ve already had a stint in investment sales, returning to brokerage could be an option if you’re willing to hustle and build a book of business. Top brokers in Chicago can earn significant income, but it may take time to ramp up.
  • Corporate Real Estate or REITs:

    • Corporate real estate roles (e.g., real estate strategy, portfolio management) or positions at REITs could leverage your underwriting and portfolio management experience. These roles often offer more stability compared to banks.
  • Consulting or Advisory:

    • Firms like CBRE, JLL, or Cushman & Wakefield often hire professionals with lending backgrounds for advisory roles. These positions can provide exposure to a variety of deals and markets, potentially positioning you for a future move to the principal side.

2. Short-Term Strategy

  • Relocating to Chicago:

    • If moving back to Chicago is a priority, consider taking a slightly lower-paying role temporarily, but ensure it aligns with your long-term goals. For example, a role at a reputable firm in Chicago could provide networking opportunities and a pathway to higher-paying positions in the future.
    • Focus on roles that offer exposure to acquisitions, asset management, or development, even if the title or pay isn’t ideal initially.
  • Networking:

    • Leverage your existing network and join organizations like ULI or NAIOP to connect with professionals in Chicago’s CRE market. Networking is often the key to breaking into principal-side roles.
  • Skill Development:

    • If you lack direct acquisitions or equity experience, consider taking courses or certifications (e.g., ARGUS, financial modeling) to strengthen your resume and demonstrate your commitment to transitioning roles.

3. Long-Term Goal: $300K Base

  • Pathways to $300K Base:

    • Principal-side roles in acquisitions or development at a mid-to-large firm can eventually lead to $300K+ base salaries, especially if you move into a VP or Director-level position.
    • Top-performing brokers or investment sales professionals can also achieve this level of compensation, though it’s more variable and commission-driven.
    • Senior roles at debt funds or PERE firms often offer compensation packages that include a $300K+ base, especially if you’re involved in sourcing or managing large deals.
  • Timeline:

    • Realistically, reaching a $300K base may take several years, especially if you’re transitioning to a new area of CRE. Focus on roles that provide a clear growth trajectory and align with your long-term goals.

4. Key Considerations

  • Avoiding Pigeonholing:
    • Staying in lending too long can pigeonhole you, making it harder to transition to the principal side. Aim to make a move within the next 1-2 years to avoid being typecast as a career banker.
  • Market Conditions:
    • The current CRE market is challenging, but this could also create opportunities as firms look for experienced professionals who can navigate uncertainty.

5. Action Plan

  • Target Roles:
    • Focus on acquisitions, asset management, or debt fund roles in Chicago.
  • Leverage Your Experience:
    • Highlight your underwriting expertise, deal experience, and ability to manage portfolios across property types.
  • Network Aggressively:
    • Attend industry events, reach out to alumni, and connect with professionals in your target market.
  • Be Strategic About Compensation:
    • While a temporary pay cut may be necessary to move back to Chicago, ensure the role offers growth potential and aligns with your long-term goals.

By taking these steps, you can position yourself for a successful transition out of banking and onto a path that aligns with your career and financial aspirations.

Sources: Career Paths/Exit Opportunities, Credit Analyst in CRE, Q&A:Commercial Banking SVP Ask Me Anything, CRE Credit Analyst Career Path, What is your compensation in Real Estate Finance?

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With a total of 6-years in CRE lending you should be able to find either a PM or RM/Loan Officer role that pays more than $150K all-in. Even if you were to go to a regional bank or credit union. Honestly, id take a look at those kind of roles as the WLB is very good, yes its slow paced and boring, but doesn’t feel like turnover is as high at the larger banks right now. 

For reference, I worked in banking for a couple years and left for broker role. My old boss at the bank called me up a couple weeks ago and offered me a role to go back, all-in he said was approx. $200K in a tier 2/3 market. That was for a VP role on the origination side with a book of business. 

 
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Generally speaking, a 300k base would be more like 800-900k all-in (300k base + 300k bonus + some sort of long-term comp). Getting there is not easy in any market and you would most likely need to be an SVP/Senior Director or above and be fee generating. 

My shop does about 2bn gross in loans a year (opportunistic lender). Net we put out about 650mm. Including AM fees on our existing book, we generate about 30mm in revenue. We get about 25% of that to split to team members as salaries, the rest goes to the house for overhead/profit. We have a 15 person investment team. 7.5mm across 15 people is 500k average. To make 600k, you have to be above average (eg a more senior person on the team).

 

 

Just to be clear I am the poster of the question. My question was how to exit the banks. Being part of the Chicago market it doesn’t feel like there are many real estate debt funds and simply a few banks. I don’t feel like there is room to move around. Maybe it’s the market, but I’ve done a lot of reaching out on things like debt funds, capital market teams at developers in the last 16 months and nothing formulated. Lenders were laid off and I survived two rounds of layoffs. I moved to an Underwriter role to manage the storm being able to afford my life. To move up, I decided to temporarily move. Is there an easier path to more money on the equity side in Chicago? It feels like debt is not the place to be here, it feels like it’s a lot more constrained and busy when there are so many developers and REPE shops here. However, if I wasn’t able to move out the of the banks are you saying debt in Chicago could be just as lucrative as I manage to move up?

 

It’s the market. A debt fund or switching to equity even are both logical moves for you, but it’s the market. Keep grinding, keep working, and keep your eyes open. An opportunity will present itself, but it may take waaaaaaay longer than you expect. 

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I don’t think that the institutional CRE scene in Chicago is that large in general, so not sure that switching to equity puts you in that much better of a place.

If you are really reaching for a 1% job, then there is no easy path. You have to find what you are good at that can be monetized. To be 2.33 standard deviations from the mean is not an easy task.

 

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