Canada is an unprestigious shithole
For all you international kiddies, don't go to Canada for undergrad or to work. Or alternatively, for Canadians with dual citizenship, attend a US/UK target and work there instead.
Pros:
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Easy(ish) to get a visa, although still harder than in the UK.
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Low cost of living compared to the US and UK (higher savings rate)
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Peaceful(ish) country
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Not as many political extremists
Cons:
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Schools are internationally unprestigious (Coming from a (domestic) supertarget alumni). The "big 3 Canadian schools", UToronto, UBC and McGill all have acceptance rates in the 50-60%s (comparable to Penn State and Ohio State) and admission averages in the mid-80s for most programs (that's around AAB for the Brits, a ~3.1 for the Yanks)
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Schools are underfunded and relatively new (most founded in the last century)
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Schools do not do a good job of selecting good candidates (no interviews, holistic application, etc). Top targets generally rely on pure grades and maybe a supplemental application with an essay or two. You don't need to be well rounded or high achieving. This turns off employers because the candidate pool quality is lower.
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Low comp at mid and senior levels
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Shitty deal flow for almost all groups (hard to exit)
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Lack of exit opps in PE or VC (big PE players here are all pension funds, meaning you don't get carried interest, which is what makes PE so lucrative)
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Lack of exit opps in corpdev (speaks for itself)
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Cold weather (especially Calgary)
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Dead nightlife (compared to NYC/London)
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Banking/finance is not seen as prestigious here (similar to London), but there's more competition than London despite its lack of prestige because a lot of internationals and immigrants are desperate for money due to the housing crisis or to send back to their home countries. Prestige might be a non-factor for some, but the competitiveness is unholy. Toronto has something like twice the CFA charterholders per capita (and that's probably not even for high finance seats).
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The people you will meet in both undergrad and work are generally of a lower social quality, as the wealthy/successful tend to gravitate towards NYC/London. It's like working in Houston, you're mostly rubbing elbows with the semi-targets and underachievers.
Now I'm not coping or compensating for anything, because while I have Canadian citizenship, I currently work in London. But I have worked in Toronto for a couple of years, and most of my friends in high finance are still in Toronto/Calgary, so my pros and cons are based on personal experience and observations.
Honestly this post is just to make sure you guys know what you're getting into. I see a lot of kids on here or Reddit who are internationals and want to study in Canada (easier to get visas) and seeing kids shell out something north of 150k for a degree, then not landing a good seat isn't ideal. Because in Canada, there's no "decent" finance-y roles outside of high finance that pays well (compared to COL), unlike the US.
"Big 3" without Queens and Ivey? You sure you're a "supertarget" amigo?
Edit: I just read the rest of your post. Some very valid points as Toronto is not a tier 1 finance city by any means, hence not comparable to New York/London/Singapore at all. But man you really come across as either (a) lacking self awareness, or (b) as someone who couldn't cut it in Toronto "high" finance. Like literally this is the kind of shit I hear from people parroting talking points from others.
Are you daft? "Big 3" and "supertargets" are different things. The "supertargets" are absolute dogwater (think Bama/ASU tier) for anything else EXCEPT econ/business, while the "Big 3" are (according to rankings), equivalent to UCL/Imperial/mid-tier ivies
You are actually an idiot. Nice trolling.
Houston has underachievers…I’m sure the petroleum engineers in this town will run circles around your prestigious ass
I'm from the UK and your comments are not accurate. Our universities have a similar application process no interview except for oxbridge and medicine. University acceptance rate for some of the best in the country is around 80-90% for most courses and most even reduce entrance requirements to attract more students after results are issued, in a process known as clearing, and a lot of the Russel group universities are actually new made within the last century and York university was created in the 1960s and still does very well in terms of rankings in banks, a verified semi-target, so age has nothing to do with this. Also our salaries are the same as Canada, so can't even make money here, you make more in Canada overall since cost of living even in Toronto is around 30% lower than london. I can't speak on deal flow but my cousin is at a big 5 and he says he gets pretty decent deal flow, maybe not as good as NYC or london but it does good and allows for a life to be had. Also, london is too over priced, even compared to NYC.
Your take is more realistic. Some of OP's points make me wonder if he is trolling, or maybe very bitter.
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To echo what someone else said above - if you're in Canada and want to get into IB/finance - the places to be for undergrad are Queen's / Western Ivey (though folks from the 3 schools you listed can be found in finance too, for sure). Based on the outcomes of my classmates from one of the two aforementioned schools, I don't think coming to Canada for education is too shabby/ a bad choice. People have gone on the work in IB, PE, VC, tech startups etc. Some stayed in Toronto, some went to NY. Some founded their own companies.
International tuition is pretty high though but I think that's generally true everywhere >.<"'
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