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  • Intern in IB - Gen
Mar 27, 2021 - 11:55am

I'm currently a senior at H/Y/P/D

Ah yes, I myself am a junior at Harvard/Princeton/USC

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
Mar 27, 2021 - 4:22pm

hilarious, not sure why the MS

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Mar 27, 2021 - 5:33pm

Congrats man! While that may not be the career path I've chosen, I recognize how hard it is to get into a school like that. You've got a bright future ahead of you, and this is the start to a very rewarding (and challenging) career. 

  • Analyst 1 in AM - Equities
Mar 27, 2021 - 6:33pm

WTF is the D? Reminds me of when they tried to make MBBD a thing. 

  • Analyst 1 in AM - Other
Mar 27, 2021 - 8:24pm

I don't think it's on the same level, but Dartmouth is actually an awesome school. Can't hate. Grats on YLS

Mar 28, 2021 - 7:16pm
T30Graduate, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Lol there is a huge difference in outcomes coming from YLS/HLS versus being a lawyer at even a T14.

Not really. YLS will open appellate federal clerkships and a handful of boutique litigation firms (the majority of students will not be in the running for either).  Those SC clerkships are obtained by lower T14 schools, it is largely getting in the door of a feeder judge and then having the right person to call. 
 

for most of YLS/HLS, you will go to the same V5, V20, V50 firms as the rest of the T14 in slightly different proportions.  The work responsibilities at all these firms will be the same.  Almost no one will enter finance or a business side exit op they could not have obtained without the JD (the JD will actually hold them back). 

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Apr 11, 2021 - 4:38pm
T30Graduate, what's your opinion? Comment below:

What is your issue? Every single post mentioning a whiff of law and you come frolicking in with your butt hear ass rhetoric. GTFOHWTS.

OP made a troll post, so I responded with a somewhat trollish demeanor.  If you do not think he was trolling, go to "Top Law School Forums" and write "Received a Goldman Sachs M&A Group Offer" to see what they will say in turn.

To your claim of "every single post," please point out where I have made any factual claims that were inaccurate.  Please point out where I made a thrust of opinion or assertion that is not the consensus of transactional attorneys off-the-record.  If anything, I have been far too conciliatory to the WSO posters inquiring about their prospects in law in that my advice has been to only go if one wants to enter litigation (assuming they have a definite and clear-eyed view of what a litigator's career entails, it is not pretty).  Most of my former classmates and co-workers would say do not become a litigator either.  The lack of desirable exit ops, dull nature of the work, and slow pace to reach any comparable level of managerial responsibility conspire to make law a poor career decision.  

To your question "What is your issue?"  I do not suffer from the all-too-common attorney problems in that I am not divorced, I do not have children I hardly know, I am not an alcoholic, I am not in visibly bad physical health, and I do not have a luxury SUV lease I can hardly afford.  If you think dentists take the cake in any of these metrics, lawyers have news for you.

Here is a quick read up on entering law today.  Before you hastily dissuade a prospective student from listening to an attorney with warnings about attending a JD program, please perform your due diligence:

1. https://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=261392 (where anyone currently in, or interested in, financial services would end up here mentally if they entered law)

2. https://newrepublic.com/article/114065/death-big-law-firms-cant-be-ignored    https://newrepublic.com/article/113941/big-law-firms-trouble-when-money-dries (some base-level information on how firms operate and the economic outlook they face; the picture has gotten uglier since these articles were written, but these are the most detailed snapshots)

3. https://web.archive.org/web/20171220050408/http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2017/12/first-tier-financial-heartburn-harvard.html  (a blog that went viral in the wake of '08; it was taken down when law schools threatened to sue law students who reported accurate facts on their alma maters cooking the books on employment figures; yes that includes the T14 inflating numbers)

4. https://outsidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2021/01/which-law-schools-are-worth-attending.html  (this blog will tell you why law is a sub-optimal choice for a young person, especially compared to other options; a number of contributors here went to HLS)

5. https://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/  (here is a tenured law professor warning prospective students about entering law school; even in the upper ranks, it is a highly risky gamble financially before factoring in opportunity cost)

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Mar 28, 2021 - 12:39am
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Mar 28, 2021 - 9:12am
T30Graduate, what's your opinion? Comment below:

icm9823

Congratulations! May I ask what kinds of extracurriculars and internships you did in college, and what your general "profile" was as a law school applicant? And do you have any strategies on how to craft a profile that's attractive for Y/S law but also versatile enough for potential finance exits? LSAT isn't a concern for me (I'm getting 175+ on mocks) and I'm quite certain that I'll have the stats necessary for the more stats-based schools like H/UC

Law schools, if they consider softs at all, put them at 5% of an admissions profile. It is almost all gpa and lsat. A lot of your Stanford law classmates will be former waiters or have no career to speak of, rather they hit testing gold one morning and had a state school 4.0. 
 

for finance exits, don't go to law school or get the mba 

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Mar 28, 2021 - 9:15am

Yale and Stanford do consider softs. Other schools don't as much. From the comment you should have been able to tell that he understands that. Lol...

edit: also, he was asking about developing an attractive finance profile while in undergrad - not using law school to go to finance.

reading comprehension

Mar 28, 2021 - 1:23pm
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