Grenoble or Bocconi?
Hello guys, I just finished my Bachelor of International Economics Management and Finance ( finance major) at Bocconi University and my goal would be to work in the banking sector in the near future. For my Master of Science, I applied and got accepted by two universities
1) Bocconi University, Msc in Finance (taught in italian, 2ys)
2)GGSB (grenoble) Msc in Finance, London campus (taught in english,2 years)
From my point of view, Bocconi has many advantages:
- the possibility to spend semesters abroad/double degree/curricular internships
- great network in London
- the possibility to major in quantitative finance and choose many elective courses
However the people are extremely competitive, professors do not care about student's problems at all and their Msc is ranked almost 30th in the FT ranking
It has been very hard for me to gather valuable info about grenoble (except for their website). It is ranked 9th on the FT rankings and it is located in London, but the classes do not seem to appealing and living in London is very expensive( not worth it if university is worse than Bocconi).
I would like to have your guys opinion, especially about Grenoble, because I would really like to know if such good ranking corresponds to effective good quality.
Non ti preoccupare per la classifica del FT. Se vuoi fare investment banking, la Bocconi è la seconda scuola la più ripresentata nella City dopo la LSE. Ci sono pochissimi persone di Grenoble nella City. Pero se hai qualche difficoltà con l'inglese, impari al massimo prima dei primi colloqui ad ottobre. In quanto riguarda ai voti, non hanno nessun importanza per i stranieri che fanno il Master in inglese ma per i Italiani forse si.
Anyhow Bocconi is a much, much better recognized school than Grenoble is and if you think you can at least get 105/110, you'll be much better off if you stay in Italy as well.
Agree with GoodBread (however I cannot be as eloquent); from what I've read, Bocconi has decent placement. There was an interview on M&I about a guy from Bocconi I believe that got interviews in London, Frankfurt and Milan.
Good luck
As a disclaimer, I did the Finance Msc. in English there and I know a lot of people starting Full-Time in London from my class. I'm also French and I've never heard Grenoble mentioned by anyone back home, ever.
Thank you guys for the quick replies, as I studied for 3 years in english + one high school year in the states, I find it easier to study in english, but I guess if Bocconi is a better school I will be able to take 2 years of courses in Italian.
You're Italian right?
I didn't study at Bocconi but I can say that the two are not even comparable. Never heard of anyone getting into banking from Grenoble except small MM firms. Audencia and Reims seem to have better finance placements which makes me say Grenoble is not even a top 7 school in France.
Yes I am italian.
I came across this article a while back, it is relevant to your case : http://news.efinancialcareers.com/118675/the-top-15-masters-in-finance-… I have also seen that Grenoble is very highly ranked by FT, but do you really believe it is better than LSE, Imperial and Warwick? Maybe that list is ok for Finance in general, but not for IB, especially in London.
My ranking for masters in finance would be 1)LSE/Oxford 2)Imperial 3)Warwick 4)HEC Paris/Bocconi, then the rest.
Lol. That's me... I think it is an easy call... Bocconi placement in banking is one of the best one in Continental Europe. If it was HEC or ESSEC maybe it was a different story but, esp. If you are Italian, you should go with it...
Bocconi is a massive IBD feeder for London. If this is your goal, it's an easy decision.
I went to bocconi and did a semester of the MSC Finance in english, I believe they offer the entire program in English if you choose?
Bocconi, no doubt. Doesn't Grenoble have an orca as its logo or something.
I go to one of the Grand Ecoles in France, know a few people from Grenoble and been there myself. As competitive and unfriendly, allegedly, as Bocconi may be, it is miles ahead of Grenoble.
They do, but the English program is harder to get into if you're coming from Bocconi's undergrad (you basically need the equivalent of a 4.0 or 1:1)
Studying the program in Italian or English won't give you any particular advantage. You will still write MSc in Finance on your CV and this thing may pops up only during interviews with former MSc in Finance students. The only thing you need is a good reason why you did the program in Italian (saying that your GPA was too low to get into the english program would not work :) )
...that's not accurate, if you did BSc at Bocconi, you need to get a 650 on the GMAT and you're in.
I believe you need 29/30, at least that's what the Italians I know there told me.
If you have a GMAT of 650 and apply with the GMAT session (1st session), GPA doesn't count for admission at all. It gets more complex if you apply during consecutive sessions, but with a good GMAT (above 650) you should be fine. I knew quite a few people that are doing the English programme ( I am one myself) and their average is way below what would be considered 1:1,even for the ones coming from the Italian BSc. A rule of thumb is that GPA starts counting more and GMAT starts decreasing in importance as you move from the first admission session to the subsequent. As a result, people with lower GMAT (650) can be admitted to the programme as long as they have high GPAs. Hence the myth that you need a 29/30 GPA to get in. Hope this clears the GMAT/GPA question :)
yes...the english program is better but I could not get into because I did not take my gmat on time and without gmat it is true that you need almost a 4.0 gpa .... of course if had been accepted to the english program I would be less doubtful. The deadline for accepting the spot at Grenoble is today and some told me it is good for its location (London), ranking and connections, but I still think Bocconi offers a better preparation.
I applied for the year starting this September...For Bocconi students GMAT counted only for the February session.... However, my issue is picking between the italian Msc in finance at Bocconi and Grenoble (London)...
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