Haas vs. Ross
Hi, everyone,
Im deciding between umich (UNDERGRAD) and berkeley right now and i'm torn because theyre right next to each other in rankings and are very good schools.
I need to know more about berkeley, can you guys tell me about it? I live in New York, so I have no idea what cali is like ( im gonna visit though)
Anyway, what I was concerned about is that sometimes I hear that if I want to work in Finance/IB/Consulting, location wise, Ross is the better choice. Do you guys happen to know how the job recruitment is in Berkeley and Ross? And I also hear that not a lot of people of Berkeley come to NY to work on wall st. so if they don't come to NY where the main financial district is, where do they go to work?
And what are your opinion on the 2 year program (haas) vs. 3 year program (ross) Also, I looked up the avg salaries/employments for both schools and they were pretty similar.
ultimately, im trying to figure out which school would provide me with better job in finance/ib area.
please share your opinions/advices thank you!
My god these questions do not stop. Congratulations they are both great schools and the general consensus is they are both well recruited schools. Haas more-so in the West coast and Ross in the mid-west and as such you should choose a school depending on where you want to end up and which school cost less. Make sure you enjoy college, its truly a once in a lifetime experience, don't worry too much now.
Haas>Ross for undergrad...If you can get in
Generally, Haas students go to SF/LA offices and Ross students go to NYC offices. If I were you, I would go to Ross. You would probably have a lot more fun there too.
Both good schools, depends on what coast you want to live on post grad.
You shoudl visit both and then just make up your mind based on fit. What kind of job you end up in really going to depend a lot more on you, what you put into school than on which school's recruiting is better.
Def agree with Connor. Unless you want to stay in Cal, NYC would be the place to go, and Ross places well there. Heck it would take you 2 hrs by plane to reach NYC if you want to network hard and meet bankers.
And personally, Umich's alumni are pretty passionate about the college, and that could make a diff in recruiting. Also our football and school spirit are awesome...
Current Haas undergrad here. I'm happy to weigh in on Haas, don't know much about Ross.
Finance/IB/Consulting recruiting:
I'd say Finance/IB recruiting here is very strong, and Consulting recruiting is fairly strong. Haas kids regularly go to BB & elite boutiques, and have good access to rotational finance programs at big tech companies because of proximity to Silicon Valley. On the consulting side, kids regularly go to tier 2 and firms, and a handful to MBB each year.
Geographic placement:
Agree that Haas places into LA/SF most frequently. Haas kids do go to NYC but I'd say that's only 10-20% of placement. Some of this is probably selection bias.
Culture:
Haas is very professionally-oriented and has a nice small school feel. Berkeley is huge and it's nice that Haas has its own distinct community. I appreciate that there are only a couple hundred kids in each Haas class because you get to know them all.
They are both good schools, Berkeley is more prestigious nationally but for you, I would say visit both, spend the night, and make your decision entirely on how you fit in on both campuses.
^ This. You're just going into undergrad, so as long as you do the work you need to, it's early enough that you should be in a good position from either school. Just go to where you'll be happier.
Cal students can easily go to NY but most of them were born and raised in Cali and want to stay on the west coast for life. Obviously Michigan is strongly recruited by NY, but I know kids who easily got interviews with bulges here on the east. Both schools have huge party scenes, but Cal has better weather. Also, there is a jump in quality of education from Berkeley vs Michigan. Cal is easily the top school behind the Ivy's and if you go there you can intern in SF over the year.
ross is not even comparable to haas
Bold statement. Borderline BS.
Very little separates both schools. Both schools have different strengths, and it depends on cultural fit. For example, if you love Football, its Ross. Or if you love warm weather, Haas hands down.
Best to visit both schools, immerse yourself in the respective cultures and tradition, then choose.
are you a pre-admit to either program? if so, you might want to pick that one lol
which school prepares you better for the jobs?
No school will prepare you a bulge bracket investment banking job-you will learn the necessary skills during training. I would say Berkeley but its a close call.
Personally I'd choose Berkeley for sure. The location is sick and I consider the school more prestigious and better, though I admit to knowing very little (nothing) about the TRUE level of education at either institution. If you're a huge football/sports fan that's one positive for Michigan, but as a NY-er you'll probably be bored there.
thank you all for the replies. I ended up going with Berkeley and I am excited for this fall!
This is a super old post now - but care to update on your experience? Did you make the right decision going to haas undergrad?
Actually didnt even end up getting into Haas lol but I loved my experience at berkeley. Obviously can’t say I made the right decision not having gone to Ross but I have zero regrets. I do think location is one of the biggest tangible difference and I enjoyed my time on the west coast.
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