All would be roughly the same cost for me.
Biz-Econ would be my major for UCLA, I am a pre-admit to Ross, and I would start in Economics at Berkeley and hope to apply to Haas later on. I am at a complete loss for deciding between these and would really appreciate any advice/input.
Thanks so much!
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Ross. As a pre admit you are coddled and handed more access to recruiting than those cutthroat UC schools.
Ross. The only downside is the weather versus sunny SoCal.
Do you think Ross is better even if I think I could get into Haas?
Well from what I know UCB's social life is much worse and the academics are incredibly difficult. Don't forget Haas only starts your junior year, so you probably will sign your offer before you start (assuming you do banking)
You should take UCLA out of consideration tbh
Ross. You get the exclusive and tailored recruiting/prep from career services and banks.
At UCB recruiting will be done before you even start at Haas.
If you want to do East Coast IB, go to Ross. You can still go west but will be a bit tougher, not too hard
If you want to do West Coast IB, go to UC Berkeley. You can go east and it won't be terribly difficult
Ross 100% especially if cost is similar and you want to do East coast Banking.
Weather is a downside but the campus / business school is absolutely beautiful and very well funded. You'll be set up for more success at Ross simply by the way they treat their Business Students.
Are you a resident of either CA or MI? I'm always a big proponent of taking the in-state tuition, especially when all the schools being discussed are excellent like in this case.
All things being equal, I'd take Ross. You're a pre-admit which makes things a lot easier. The weather is a disadvantage, but you'll have a terrific college experience (quintessential college town, Michigan football, great campus life)
Sadly, I am a resident of Minnesota. Both schools come out to roughly 65k a year and I still always have Carlson at the University of Minnesota I could fall back on for about 20k a year (with scholarship).
Also, what do you think of the future trajectories of Ross and Haas? Do you think that one program is growing more than the other and how should this factor into my decision? Thanks!
In my opinion, Ross>UCLA>Haas
Ross is the strongest for placement and you'll still have a pretty good time. Weather isn't the best, but it's only for 4 years anyways.
UCLA is probably worse than Berkeley, but you'll be in LA and assuming you're a top student, the recruiting for top kids out of UCLAs business program will be good.
What I've heard about Haas(and seen from screening Haas resumes) is that it's very competitive and hard to differentiate oneself. There's a number of running jokes out there about how Berkeley/Haas students always play second fiddle to Stanford (what do Berkeley and Stanford students have in common...acceptance letters to Berkeley) which makes recruiting around the Bay tough. Student body is also just a lot of really smart kids and everyone is hustling for the same thing. I saw so many Haas resumes with good GPA, club involvement, business admin major etc. Not to say you won't be successful, but seems like it's more of a slog.
You can't really go wrong with any of them though.
Thank you so much for the advice! Do you think that in the event that I went to Berkeley and didn't get accepted into Haas that it would be possible to still do well doing Economics? Or a combination of economics and maybe data science? Also in terms of reputation for the degree do you think that a Ross degree could also help me land jobs possibly in the west coast as well? Or even internationally?
Honestly you'll do great from any of them, even Berkeley without Haas, you'll find a good job and if you're smart and motivated, you'll end up somewhere great. With that being said, it might just take a little longer. You might not get a banking internship out of college, you might have to work a few years and try to lateral, maybe you don't end up at Goldman but UBS instead.
If Berkeley really feels like the best fit for whatever reasons(location, proximity to home, student body, etc) go where feels best. And to be honest, Berkeley is still a tremendous school, it's on par with Ross for sure there's just a few more variables at play.
Best of luck with the decision.
Absolute bullshit, you are very arrogant for someone who has no idea. All my friends who went to Berkeley did BB/EB IB in NYC and ended up at MFs. Can’t say the same for UCLA, USC, or Ross.
Out of those you listed, take Ross pre-admit and run with it hands down.
Ross is the best out of the 3 schools mentioned. And don't choose Haas, it is super competitive and if you don't manage to get into Haas(it's not direct admit) you have to study economics at the U or transfer. So Ross FTW!
When I was in your shoes I came on here and asked the forum which school to go to. I went against the consensus from this board because it was a better personal fit. Looking back, I don't regret it, but I definitely would have had an easier time recruiting.
That said, I'd go to Ross. The business school is fantastic, you will be fed to recruiters. And most importantly, you will have more fun.
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