McGill Desautels Faculty of Management VS Rotterdam School of Management VS Nanyang Business Sch
McGill Desautels Faculty of Management, Canada(Bcom) VS Rotterdam School of Management, Netherlands(IBA) VS Nanyang Business School, Singapore(BBA) Undergraduate for a good career in Finance.
Desautels Faculty of Management, McGill will cost me approximately USD 144,000 total for 4 years. Rotterdam School of Mangement, Erasmus Univeristy will cost me approximately USD 90,000 total for 4 years*. Nanyang Business School will cost me USD 30,000 total for 3 years.
1) How would you rank these 3 universities? 2)Which of the two universities would provide me a better future in the long run, better investment for my future? 3) Which university will give me access inot investment banking into BBs? 4) Which university has a stronger reputation/prestige worldwide? 5) Which university will give me a relatively better access into US? 6) Lastly, which US universities would you say is in par with each of the 3 universities that I have mentioned?
Thank you so much in advance. And sorry for the long post, need to make a life decision. :)
*RSM will give me a Masters degree at the end of 4 years.
P.S. As for Visa in the States, as a Singaporean it is quite easy for me to get a work Visa due to FTA (unique to Chile and Singapore). Exclude the Visa issue when considering access to US, compare purely based on course and univerisity.
Anyone?? :) thanks!
It's likely that no one here knows each of them well enough to give you good insights, that's probably why you're not getting any reply. You're comparing three really different schools. Try to figure out where you would like to work first. If you want to stay in the USA, definetely McGill, although I've heard that for finance the go-to school in Canada is Ivey.
About RSM I can tell you it's a great university but it's more known for management than finance, not sure about its BB placement in London.
No idea about Nanyang unfortunately (but from a European perspective, if it can be useful, it's good but below NUS and maybe also SMU).
Thanks alot Bat_man.
Yeah, that's what i was thinking.. they are very different universities. I didn't choose Ivey because I wanted a university which has the best international rep in finance from Canada. From my research i came found out that Ivey>Queens>McGill. So, i decided to go with McGill.
As for RSM, I cant major in Finance in undergrad that's why I am a bit hesitant.
Also would you say that McGill Desautels finance is better than NUS, SMU and NTU?
No clue to be honest. I'd say it depends on where you want to start you career. McGill is supposed to be the Canadian Harvard, so it will most likely allow you to get a job in Toronto or US (and in the case you stay in Canada, it will be easier trying to move/network to the US compared to being in Singapore). NUS is arguably the best university in Asia, so it would be a clear choice if you want to stay home, but I don't think its name carries a lot of weight in North America (or Europe). Similar way for SMU and NTU, but with the addition of a less prestigious name.
The problem with Singapore U's is that you're probably gonna have to put much much more effort in maintaining the required GPA (or CAP) to make the cut for FO roles. Singapore is also very much like HK where they prefer recruiting locals with foreign degrees (ivy leagues/oxbridge/LSE etc) so you will really have your work cut out for you. An NTU degree will hold almost no value outside SEA (and maybe India).
If finances aren't an issue i'd suggest McGill hands down - Montreal is amazing, quebecois girls are hot and the nightlife is excellent. With regards to recruiting you have a shot at Toronto, NY and SG.
Thanks Work_Life_Challenge.
Yeah Singaporean universities studies are super competitive. Its gonna be hard to stand out in terms of GPA.
I wouldn't say finances aren't a problem but I wouldn't mind investing in myself if its worth it. I just dont know if McGill is worth it. But so far out of the three options that I am leaning more toward McGill due to its sheer reputation, even though its due to its med and law programs I guess it'll still be an asset.
The Netherlands has a pretty relaxed policy I believe. You can stay for up to a year after graduation to find a job. But don't spend 90k on RSM as a non european. The IB placement is ok, but this is mostly dutch people joining a benelux coverage team or germans returning to germany. Can't speak of the other schools but IMO 90K for RSM is not worth the cost as you will have to put just as much effort into gpa and networking as any other uni.
This. I'm quite sure you'll have a better shot at IB coming from McGill than RSM - primarily because you're an international student.
Yeah thats what i feel too, after read various forums.
But overall, would you say its worth it to spend around 140kUSD for mcgill?
Honestly this depends on your family's finances. Suffice to say that many americans actually choose McGill over good private U's simply because it is much cheaper - but this is usually for STEM related fields. If you're already taking loans to enroll in RSM or have to cover the difference then the choice depends on your risk aversion. Objectively McGill > RSM.
RSM wouldnt be any issue financing. McGill might be a slight stretch but if its worth it then my parents are ready to fund. BTW which US business school would you say is in par with McGill Desautels for finance?
It's very difficult to say because it's tough to compare universities in different countries. McGill is a solid semi - target in Canada with decent reach into NY. I'd put it on par with b schools such as Goizueta (Emory), Kenan - Flagler (UNC) and Kelley (Indiana).
I see.. I was thinking its probably around Notre Dame or something. But yeah..
Just to settle a debate between my friend and I, is the australian business school (melbourne business school) considered more/less prestigious than canadian business school(mcgill)? In terms of repuation globally and career opportunities in their respective countries and globally and quality of education.
Agree with you that it's hard to compare across countries, however you're comparing it to US schools that are really random. The IB recruitment from McGill is very real at the scale of the Canadian market and, from what I've seen in the last few years, on an uphill trajectory. Very good shot for Toronto, decent shot for NY if you're a top student, can think of many Asian and European students that have placed well back home as well. Point is, you can make it into IB from any of these schools if you put in the effort. Networking will have a much, much larger impact than a line item on your resume. Finally, OP should keep in mind the relatively regional aspect of recruitment. If you want to end up in NYC, no doubt McGill is your best bet here. RSM will give you a good shot in London. Unless you have an insane connection though, NYC as an international student from a European school will be close to impossible. Nanyang is obviously good for SG/HK but same problem for US. Taking into account OP's personal situation, I would go to Nanyang no doubt.
OP like the others mentioned you're getting too caught up with "global prestige" which is pretty darn subjective. I cannot really comment on Australian U's but I know their academic requirements are low and the lifestyle is pretty laid back.
@frenchstudent" - The unis I mentioned are actually pretty solid with a fair presence on the street. Indiana's IBW has a 100% placement rate and Emory/UNC are strong semi targets. To say McGill is a target like Queens/Ivey or UVA/UMich is a bit of a stretch but it definitely does have better global recognition. But regardless, I do agree that you can get into IB from McGill if you put in the work (the HIM program is excellent) and Montreal is one of the best cities to spend your early twenties in.
Actually to be honest, I am not too caught up with global prestige because like you mentioned only HYPS and Oxbridge are the contenders.
The things I am more concerned about are the opportunities a university can offer me, networking aside like, on campus recruitments, quality of education, opportunities to join clubs/be involved and lastly, its reputation with of employers. Ofcourse along with these I have to put in my own effort by networking, getting competitive gpa.
I am slightly more into global reputation as opposed to prestige for McGill because, for me its kind of expensive so I just want to be sure that its worth it/well reputed.
If your family can afford it go to McGill.
There's always going to be an opportunity cost or "what if" factor when you decide between universities but honestly just make a choice and stick with it.
90k for RSM is a joke! It's a safety for German kids who couldn't get into WHU or HSG. I would prefer Bocconi, it's also easier to get into and you can get a full scholarship if your act is at least a 28. Also you should apply to western or queens, not McGill!
Bump Bump any other opinions from others? :)
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