Oxford vs Notre Dame for undergrad

Congrats on getting into both! They're both great schools. I think it'll come down to whether you see yourself wanting to go to grad school and where you want to live permanently. I would choose Oxford as there are more solid pros, especially name brand that you can use if u choose to come to the US later. Sure ND is a great school in the US but the intls (Aus/GB/Cad) from my office rarely know any of our good schools outside of HYPSM. If you’re set on going to grad school, I’d say to take an extra year at Oxford (if that’s possible) or go to ND. 3 year degrees aren’t recognized in the US. Other cons for ND are the location and idk how true this is but some of the intls at my office say US schools sometimes promise $$ in freshman to lower it later on? I have no idea but I’d double check to avoid surprises later. I think Oxford is a better choice as you’d be integrated in 2 cultures - UK/US if you want and can work both places with a little effort. It’s harder to go from ND to working in the UK later on and going to ND won’t guarantee a FT us placement. I’m hearing FT placements for intl became much harder in the last few years. I hope this helps. Lmk if you have any Qs and pls SB this! Thanks! And btw which part of SE are you from? HK/SIN/JPN are all good ops too.

Oxford for sure. Do an MFin in the US later or transfer from London if you are so determined to work in the US - Oxford is in another universe than ND and will pay off in the long run

one thing we haven't talked about his coursework: if you're down to live and breathe finance go for oxford hands down, if you're into more liberal artsy stuff maybe venture ND. also not sure about ND specifically but international student community is very dependent on school -- probably super normalized at London in comparison to ND (white, christian) if that's of importance to you. 

I'm from sg too, are you matriculating this year?

No chance Europe/London is more competitive because of commonwealth lol

What course at Oxford did you get an offer for?

Ur not gonna go to the US permanently from oxford if you’re not an American citizen. If you want to work there, go to ND. But tbh why would you be so obsessed with it? 
 

MBA in the states is another option.

definitely not more competitive in Europe, I knew basically nothing and got offers from top banks and hedge funds for internships. In America that doesn’t really fly and your expected to network and drill technicals much more.

Also from SEA, went to Ox, now in PE.
If you want to go to the US eventually there’s almost no chance unless you do an MBA / go the entrepreneurship route and raise funding there.
Personally I think Ox is a slam dunk over ND, because even then you have to go via the lottery to stay.

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Background, my brother in law who is from a South Asian country goes to Notre Dame. I considered the school and actually got to learn that Notre Dame undergrad business is highly ranked in the US (if you care for rankings). It appears to be a real a jewel in the finance community for undergrads and kids get really good placements thanks to a robust alumni network that is known to be very proud and always willing to help. I know every school says this, but my brother in law actually mentioned that a colleague who abruptly had to re-recruit for a PE internship after the offer he had was rescinded literally got 6 people to speak to him in a week and he converted these into 3 interviews. His response rate from alumni was apparently off the charts, with some simply offering to chat and introduce him to other people. I don't know much about Oxford, but I personally chose my school (US) because of location, but I have struggled to get people on the phone with me. It's a big school and everything, but the attitude from alums is almost like "hey, you made it here, you don't need me to help you get the job" type thing and that can be frustrating. If you plan to get into finance, my experience is that you need to go to a school that is highly regarded but also has people who are willing to pull you up by all means necessary. Finance is already very competitive and not everyone who goes to what some may think of as a top school will be guaranteed a spot in good shops. Most of those spots are handed out simply based on whether you and the MD connected about something like having gone to the same school or your love for skiing. Bottomline, if you plan to work in the US, it will be hard for you to make these connections if you are coming from Oxford, regardless of how Oxford as a brand is well known internationally. 

Oxford 100%. 1 in 3 US work visa applicants get accepted so you may get an offer but the country wont let you work. The UK gives visas to everyone and I believe you will get 2 years of full time work authorization after graduating from a UK uni. I spoke with a VP at Citi in London and he said if you get good performance reviews, after 2 years in a BB, they will transfer you to an office of your choice (NYC, SF, LA, MIA, etc). I also spoke with a VP at BAML in St. Pauls and he said 1/10 oxbridge applications get passed through to 1st rounds so getting a job in the city is easy for you (for reference, 4/400 applications from non oxbridge/UCL/Imperial/LSE/Warwick).

bump. I've heard that OCR/networking works a lot stronger in the US than UK, can anyone shed light on this?