Western Ivey x McGill for Toronto IB

Got into both and was wondering which one I should choose if my main goal is to break into Bay Street's IB scene. Can you guys help me out by offering your perspectives?

  1. I know Ivey is way better for US placements, but given the current political scenario, I guess that's not going to be an option moving forward, so I'm mainly focusing on north of the border. Therefore, is there a substantial difference between Ivey and McGill for Bay St.? One that would justify living in London instead of Montreal...
  2. I've read a post somewhere from a current Ivey student saying that Ivey is not worth it anymore (for reasons which I can't remember) and that aspiring students should avoid it. If you are another Ivey student, I would love to read your thoughts about it...
  3. Hate people who give excuses for failing and are always blaming their lack of success on a multitude of factors, but being an ugly-looking non-white male, I have to ask: I know I'll have to bootlick club presidents in order to get into them, but is there a difference between those two schools, regarding how "fratty" and "monochromatic" their finance clubs are?
  4. Can I still break into IB if I choose Ivey and don't get accepted into the WIC (or clubs as such)?
  5. Can I still break into IB if I choose McGill and don't get accepted into MIC/RedPoint Capital? 

    Thanks a lot, lads 

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When it comes to breaking into Bay Street's IB scene, Ivey and McGill both offer strong opportunities, but there are some key differences to consider based on the most helpful WSO content:

Ivey's Strengths for Bay Street IB

  1. Target School Status: Ivey is widely regarded as the top Canadian target for investment banking, with a strong track record of placing graduates into Bay Street and even Wall Street roles. Its alumni network is extensive and influential, particularly in high finance.
  2. On-Campus Recruiting: Ivey has the best on-campus recruiting for IB in Canada, with elite boutiques (e.g., Evercore, Moelis) and top firms like Goldman Sachs actively recruiting there.
  3. Career Guidance: Ivey's career services and networking guidance are considered top-notch, giving students a significant edge in securing interviews and offers.
  4. Club Participation: While clubs like WIC (Western Investment Club) are competitive, not being part of them doesn't necessarily block your path to IB. The school's overall reputation and resources can still help you break in.

McGill's Strengths for Bay Street IB

  1. International Appeal: McGill has a highly international student body, and while fewer students actively recruit for Bay Street compared to Ivey, those who do often place well. Recent placements include roles at Evercore, Moelis, LionTree, and all major Canadian banks.
  2. Honours Investment Management (HIM) Program: If you get into McGill's HIM program, it significantly boosts your chances of breaking into IB. Alumni from this program have landed roles at top firms like JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and the Big 5 Canadian banks.
  3. Overall Experience: Montreal offers a vibrant and diverse cultural experience, which some students prefer over London's smaller, more insular environment.

Key Considerations

  • Fratty/Monochromatic Culture: Ivey is often perceived as more "fratty" and homogeneous compared to McGill. However, this shouldn't deter you if you're willing to network and leverage the school's resources effectively.
  • Breaking In Without Clubs: At both schools, not being part of top finance clubs (e.g., WIC at Ivey or MIC/RedPoint at McGill) doesn't mean you can't break into IB. Networking, strong academics, and leveraging alumni connections can still get you there.

Conclusion

If your primary goal is to break into Bay Street IB, Ivey has a clear edge due to its stronger recruiting pipeline, alumni network, and career services. However, if you value a more diverse and international experience, and especially if you get into McGill's HIM program, McGill can also be a great choice. Ultimately, your success will depend on your ability to network, work hard, and make the most of the opportunities at either school.

Sources: Here are the Target Undergraduate Schools in Canada, McGill Desautels vs. Queen's Commerce, Mcgill to break into invesment banking?

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This is a simpleton take but Ivey is 200km away from Toronto. Mcgill is in a different province.  It is still going to be a lot easier to recruit to Toronto. Furthermore, while I am sure you can still make arguements against the US scenario I struggle to imagine the recruiting outcomes being that drastically reduced to choose mcgill. 

 

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