Which school to attend? Baruch, UCL or Warwick?
Hello, i am a high school senior from China and i got the offers from Baruch(currently general program, the result of honor program application has not yet announced), University College London (economics&statistics) and Warwick (Accounting & Finance).
I always want to pursue a career in financial industry(Investment Banking, Trading, PE, so i just want to get into a target school. I have no preference about the locations personally, both US and UK are ok to me. But i just want to know which choice will give me a greater chance to get into the big firms like Goldman in the office in HK or the local big firms in mainland China because i planned to get back to Asia instead of settling down in US or UK. I may stay in that country for few years but i will eventually go back to Asia
I know that Baruch is not internationally well known, but it has a perfect location, very strong reputation in NYC, and a very affordable tuition&fees. I plan to transfer to a better known school if i get into Baruch.
Thank you!!!!
I don't have great opinion about UK schools, but it's an astonishing insult to put UCL and Warwick in the same sentence as Baruch.
UCL > Warwick
You guys can't be serious. A&F at Warwick is much better IMO. You don't need to study economics in depth for trading or the buyside finance.
UCL let everyone in these days. Its ranking drops every year, they expand too much... to the point where their own academic staff held a vote of no confidence...
And yet i would still recommend UCL out of the 3. Warwick is a better school (i personally would never live in Coventry though) but it's not known internationally.
Baruch is a semi target at best but you should be able to transfer to another school once you're there. In the UK this is pretty much not doable.
You are kidding, right? Warwick is not internationally known? Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, Warwick are the best UK schools well known around the world. Anyone involved in Finance knows they are great business schools.
ok maybe i should've worded it better. i don't think it is as well known internationally. I'm with you in that it is a very good school. It just isn't as well known as it should be.
The G5 are the most well-known ones to be honest. St Andrews, Durham, Warwick might fare well in national leagues but outside Europe they are not as strong as G5 (Oxbridge, LSE, UCL and Imperial).
I can speak for both unis, having been there.
Coming from London, Warwick is a depressing deathtrap, would never ever go back there. That being said, it is heavily targeted by recruitment, and was good enough to land me SA interview at Carlyle (which I didn't get, ridiculous technicals).
UCL instead has an amazing vibe, equal amount of recruitment if not more, and pretty much has alumni everywhere, as in beyond banking, like in VC. Best of all, you could study at UCL, and during free time try find some type of work experience at a boutique or something. London is full of opportunities, and the location allows you to make full use of them, whilst studying. Go with UCL.
Does Carlyle do SA in London for undergrads?
Yes they do, I interviewed for "Distressed & Special Situations - Summer Analyst" in their London office.
I agree with a lot that has been said on this forum, but want to add my 2c. Never heard of Baruch so I can't comment there.
For undergrad, both UCL and Warwick are strong, both at the UK and European level (which is where you mentioned you would want to work) but UCL is slightly better in non-UK Europe (think France, Spain, Scandinavia e.t.c) when it comes to employer reputation.
One key thing to consider is this; Warwick Uni has Warwick Business School and UCL technically doesn't have 'UCL Business School' so assuming you get an IB or S&T job straight out of undergrad, Warwick may have a slight edge in the UK.
If you go down the path most people go down, which is a MSc after undergrad, and decide to study in the UK then I would choose UCL. This is because UK unis live and die by rankings (not that you should) and since UCL often tops Warwick in many categories across different rankings, the big UK targets (Oxford/Cambridge/LSE) tend to favour UCL vs Warwick (I went to one of these targets, so I'm not pulling this out of thin air). If you want to do an MSc at another non-UK European target (e.g. Bocconi/HEC) then I would say both are probably on the same level and it might be wise to contact people at those unis directly to ask.
Lol, LSE is no more a target than UCL or Imperial is in case you think so
You're either a troll or not familiar with the UK unis but Top 4 targets for IB are Oxford, Cambridge, LBS and LSE. A tier down you have Imperial, UCL and Warwick. If you don't believe me walk into any bank in London and ask anyone at any level
Perhaps his point about LSE refers to the entire uni being geared towards a career in finance, and I agree. I personally don't think that LSE attracts more recruiting, they just have a higher proportion of ridiculously well qualified applicants that also happen to be interested in IB/PE etc.
At the same time, if more recruiters do actually target LSE than UCL, then I think it's solely down to strategy, with recruiters knowing that a higher proportion of LSE students would be interested in x company. However when reviewing applicants for interviews, I feel that both schools will probably stand equal, at least pre MBA/MSF.
Not a horse in the race so i don't really care, but UCL had the second most hires for Goldman and the most hires for JPM this year.. Imperial definitely also did very well, they have some incredible people. Other than that agree with Jokosor , self-selection plays a big role. Bet you're LSE (or prospective), always trying to tag on with oxbridge, pretty hilarious to be honest so keep it up
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