How does Gelber Group rank in relation to other prop trading shops?

Don't know why people are so obsessed with going to prop, bruh. Most people I know who did prop/ market making at tier 1, like Citsec/whatever (~60%), are let go after two years, and the guy I know who went to one of these T3 prop shops got let go within one year. So they end up moving significantly downstream or just going back to school, and these people are fukin brilliant, like top of the class. I feel like with starting at a prop, there is a much higher probability of washing out very early before you even get a chance to build a track record or whatnot. Stability and exits from a good bank trading desk are very underrated IMO. At least if you don't mess up, you can make VP in a couple years predictably and trade your own book for a while. If you are dying to make more than just leave your seat after a couple of years to trade a book at a multi-manager as a sub-pm or sth, pay there can be much higher than a typical options trading seat at a prop. Essentially by going with a bank, you sacrifice some comp for much higher stability and network but higher upside opportunities are still available to you given experience. I don't think it's a bad tradeoff if you don't actually know how to make money trading at this point. Most hires (~70%+) at the multi-manager platforms are from bank trading desks (possibly due to more institutionalized pipeline/ client relationships), not prop, and some bank vol traders do make the move to tier 1 prop. These mm pm jobs, althought volatile, are where people get the tail outcomes in comp. I would argue there are much, much fewer BB vol trading seats for new grads than prop seats, given how much headcount has shrunk since GFC; each desk hires like 1 person a year. Also, learning to be smooth, play politics/ be client-facing in a corporate setting is probably good for your career long term. Prop tends to attract very, very technically capable people who don't really care about team dynamics and only PNL. Obviously the technical bar is much higher than a bank but this business is not only about tech/quant ability. This is good if you think you are going to be a star solo trader forever. But what if you want to start your own fund/firm/ run your own team one day? Think about the background of every single leading macro/vol trader/ fund manager now, Chris Platt, Alan Howard, Chris Rokos, Dalio, Yan Huo (capula founder), Said Haidar, even Soros and Drunkenmiller, and the list goes on, all ran their own trading/research teams at banks. Hell, even like the richest quant now Alex Gerkos started quant trading at DB. Technologically more advanced prop firms existed when they were young too. Why didn't more star managers come from Prop then? The only real prop-trading billionaires i can think of is Jeff Yass and formerly Sam Bankman Fried lol. 

Second, books being traded at the t2 and t3s are much much smaller than a bb platform's even after regulatory changes, so you need much higher trading returns to justify your seat; hence, I think that is another reason for higher turnover. Bank traders can also make money through braindead ways like trading the flow so again more ways to make stable revenue. I spoke to some people at a tier 1 prop and for a single asset class, and they churned through about two dozen traders in the last couple of years. Bar is pretty high because they are coding up their own strategies all the time.