What traits are key for long-term success in commodity trading?

Hey,

I will graduate within a year (physics) and am based in Switzerland. I consider applying for commodity trading firms (Glencore, Trafigure) in Switzerland.

I don't know too much about the industry, but I like

  • short and intense work (NOT long hours)

  • results-oriented work (it works or it doesn't)

  • communicating & explaining (sales roles)

  • flexible work & deadlines


My grades & internships are excellent, but I get stressed EASILY if I have too much work on my plate (> 50 hrs is too much).

So I basically know that I can NOT handle vast amounts of pressure, and long hours.


I wonder if I'm overthinking and overstating the importance of resilience (compared to the traits above), or if it's really like that.


Thanks for helping me out.

 
Most Helpful

Not sure how to truly answer your post question but I'll address the point below.  FWIW I used to work at one of the trading houses as an analyst before moving to a trader seat (stayed in the seat for 4 years)

 

My grades & internships are excellent, but I get stressed EASILY if I have too much work on my plate (> 50 hrs is too much).

So I basically know that I can NOT handle vast amounts of pressure, and long hours.

Yeah that's gonna be a problem.  The pressure, especially at the 2 firms you mentioned, is intense for roles even outside the coveted trading spot. Room for error is low and in commodities your mistakes have real world ramifications, not as simple as trying to negotiate with a broker/counterparty for a fat fingered trade.  

If you want to get into these firms and make it into a front office role you should be training yourself how to handle pressure and long hours.  It's not banking hours but you will be bringing work home in the evenings and weekends. 

 

Terrible advice, not like OP had a chance of even getting a trading seat (it's just statistics, like 1% of grads get the spot).  OP, you should be aiming for middle/back office (risk, ops, scheduling, etc) where your lack of being able to handle pressure can be masked more easily.  Though when things get tough, it'll show andd you'll be kicked out. 

If you're a "resilient" person who can't handle pressure, you can try FAANG companies given your physics background.  Quant or prop is a stretch. 

 

Ex quam incidunt ea ut assumenda delectus. Deserunt reiciendis et dicta est aperiam.

Vero facere quia et atque aut sed nihil. Reprehenderit molestiae possimus ut ea voluptas ut sint explicabo. Qui sed corrupti modi.

Laudantium ex laboriosam natus assumenda mollitia. Aspernatur eius amet qui blanditiis repellat quos est. Odit officiis ut deleniti molestias. Aut saepe magnam sed consectetur. Veritatis numquam qui excepturi quae eum repellat aut dolores. Libero doloribus qui eius dolorem assumenda illo.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
6
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
7
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
10
numi's picture
numi
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”