Tech banking -- > start-up exit --> VC?
Hey all,
For a little background I just finished my first in tech banking at a GS/MS/JPM BB bank. My ultimate goal is to do VC one day, but was wondering what you guys thought about joining a start-up (preferably Series B-C) for a bit in a function like biz ops after 1 year of banking. Just want to hear all opinions on an exit like this if ultimate goal is to end up in VC one day. Is there value to getting operational experience? Is 1 year of banking enough?
If you’re at GS/MS you could likely go straight into VC. Some funds I’ve seen take analysts are Insight, ICONIQ, IVP, and TCG (Chernin), but there are definitely others. It seems that in the VC landscape there is a high variety in the type of analysts/associates backgrounds that different funds hire.
GS / MS / JPM have all had solid venture exits in the last few years, so really I think it comes down to whether or not you think you'd be ready for VC after a year or two of banking. If you think the operational expertise would help you develop as an investor, go for it. Otherwise, likely not necessary.
I work at a startup and would like to go to VC eventually. I'd suggest going straight from banking to VC or going banking -> growth PE -> VC rather than the path you've outlined.
So the consensus from the comments so far seems that taking a detour to a startup (how long do you need?) doesn't make someone a measurably better venture investor?
I've seen some senior venture roles require a mix of prior investing experience (any buyside - public, growth pe, vc) + prior operating experience at a startup (across any function - product, bizops, finance, corpdev). What's the thinking there?
I would think working at a startup would help you better identify which startups to invest in but I can't say that for certain. With that said, I know that tech banking to VC is a well trodden path that I wouldn't necessarily deviate from if the goal is VC. Unless you have strong confidence in getting a fairly high level (Director and above) position at a strong startup. And as far as ik that position needs to be the "right" position - Product, Engineering, Biz Dev, Operations etc. Not sure joining the accounting department at a startup would move the needle, for example.
We're clearly of different opinions here. I think people who actually work in VC should comment. What I do know is that I see far more tech banking -> VC types these days than just some guy who worked at a startup, hence my comment about being a high level employee. I think your sentiment was accurate a decade ago but VC is becoming far more part of the "path" (banking -> PE/VC/HF) than ever before.
I think your Seed vs Series B+ distinction is key. Thanks for the info. My background: currently a director of strategy/fp&a at a series B startup. How did you land your Biz Ops role, if you don't mind me asking? I am starting to realize I need to diversify my background away from Finance a bit.
Just my 5 cents here since I had for long time been considering if I after all am more suited for investing but in that case it would be VC/Growth PE.
I recently left as VP at a BB to join an early stage fintech startup (12mos old, pre-revenue, 6-9mos cash left in this funding environment). My thinking was, how can I sit across an entrepreneur and say "I understand you, I've been in your shoes" (clearly not same, but joining very early requires you to pretty much act as an entrepreneur)? For that reason, I wanted to get hands-on operational experience in order to be credible as investor - talking to lots of founder-friends and seeing it within a startup, it is crazy how many VCs/Growth PEs are really bad investors because on the other side of the table you have kids which have zero understanding for operational challenges and have done all their work within PPT/XLS.
For me the past 6 months at a startup have been pretty much similar to my first year in banking with regards to learning curve and trajectory. It is hard work, you don't know what you are doing but you are grasping new concepts and learning new things on the go ultra-fast. I also feel that much of my previous experience needed to be complemented with this unstructured, unorganised, hustling environment where you take every call and meeting aiming for the stars despite my finance brain saying "ah, this won't happen because x, y, z" - it is crazy how much I needed to remind myself of this naive, aggressive, punching above my weight mindset as well as what proactivity really means. In finance, people thing they are proactive but can chill for a week and deals will still come from "above" and put you into work. In a startup (at least for me as part of management team), I really needed to quickly adapt my mindset to what proactivity really means - if I don't do anything, nothing happens. You have more work to do than resources, so you need to do a lot of the work yourself no matter how "basic" which is a huge contrast to being a VP in a bank.
I have also learned a lot more about what I would be looking for as an investor, having seen some things from the first row so to speak which you would never see from the outside.
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