A girl laughed when I said PWM

wtf? We met a bar and talked for a few minutes then she asked why i was in NYC for the summer and I said I'm doing an internship at [bank} for private wealth management. then she f***g laughed for a second like it was a joke.

Even though I missed out on an IB summer spot (rising junior) I'm still in NYC for the summer for a BB PWM position and doing a good job / like the work so far. I'm not a surf instructor from California "just ridin' through life man" but man I'm not some uptight quant (you all know who I'm referring to) either.

Is this a general trend in girls in NYC (e.g. they're reading betches love this (google "166. Investment Bankers - Betches Love This") or did i just strike out and meet the wrong girl? I'm from a smaller town and state school in midwest so not really used to this kind of bar scene. whether it matters or not she said she did something in consulting, she fit the type imo.

Anyone else in PWM get this kind of treatment? should i be ashamed?

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DickFuld

This.

Good point Dick. Did anyone hear that LA life guards average 6 figures? Imagine that, for watching the bay.

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Good responses. Echo @JYFresh and @sfbroker

"You are neither right nor wrong because the crowd disagrees with you. You are right because your data and reasoning are right." -Warren Buffett
 

lol @ u laughing at quants who make double your annualized income + projected bonus (inflated 30% for good measure)

speed boost blaze
 

classy women never laugh in your face, move on bud.

try this next time, when a girl does something like this, say "next" and then walk away. she'll be confused and you'll feel confident. for monkeys under 25, Next was a TV show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_(TV_series)) and I've seen this move perfected at bars by some of my college friends when they were talking with snobby girls. my school went through a transition from being a place to beach bums to a place for snobs in short order, so there was plenty of "nexting" Thursday nights.

echoing @"sfbroker" comments, don't diss being a surf instructor, I did that before PWM, best job in the world.

 

thebrofessor said it perfectly. Move on dude. Chances are she doesn't know dick about PWM and that she only knows what her IBD/Buyside former one-night stands have told her. The JAPs in NYC are dogshit anyway. You like PWM? Try to swing an FT gig in SF or LA. Great $$$, great hours, and the women know nothing of finance. They're also hotter too...

 
DoYouLikePhilCollins

thebrofessor said it perfectly. Move on dude. Chances are she doesn't know dick about PWM and that she only knows what her IBD/Buyside former one-night stands have told her. The JAPs in NYC are dogshit anyway. You like PWM? Try to swing an FT gig in SF or LA. Great $$$, great hours, and the women know nothing of finance. They're also hotter too...

I've never been with a chick who knew anything about finance. Does it suck as much as I imagine? I'm more into artsy chicks or chicks in marketing or whatever. They're more fun to be around.
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Yeah, I never tell people what I do. I don't want to explain it nor do I care about making meaningful small talk with a random chick. And LOL at her for laughing at your internship. Unless she knows the details of each PWM group, comp structure, how they pay interns, etc then she is a moron.

I'd forget about it dude. She probably works at MAC cosmetics or some shit.

 

haha do people seriously answer that question in this manner?

"What do i do sweetheart? Let me tell you...I am a pre-MBA associate at a well-renowned private equity fund, KKR, you may have heard about it. Today at work I constructed a leveraged buyout model."

Just say you "work in finance" and theres a 99% chance they wont dig deeper than that, if they do the most they will follow up with is "what bank do you work for" and thats if they are trying hard to feign interest in your boring career in finance. No girl has ever been seduced or aroused by the thought of a guy working in finance. Do you think laywers are cool/interesting/sexy/mysterious?? Nope. Thats what they think about you.

If you want to impress random women at the bar with your profession either start lying or get a new job.

 

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I think it's just because you went too in-depth with your answer. Just say, "I work in finance."

She may have thought it was impressive and she's just a giggly person who laughs in that kind of predicament for some reason..

 

You could have just told her the name of the firm at which you work.

[quote=Matrick][in reply to Tony Snark"]Why aren't you blogging for WSO and become the date doctor for WSO? There seems to be demand. [/quote] [quote=BatMasterson][in reply to Tony Snark's dating tip] Sensible advice.[/quote]
 
Tony Snark

You could have just told her the name of the firm at which you work.

Name dropping is lame.
heister: Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad. https://arthuxtable.com/
 

Shes likely too dumb to realize that guys who run the PWM divisions spend more time playing golf with rich people than they do in the office having coronaries freaking out about some huge M&A pitch that they will never get because they don't work at Goldman.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

I'm trying to decide if this is a troll post or not :/

Currently: future neurologist, current psychotherapist Previously: investor relations (top consulting firm), M&A consulting (Big 4), M&A banking (MM)
 

As a NYC'ER I must say that the average aspiring model/actress has a pretty good command over understanding job titles and more importantly what kind of comp you make. It's actually kind of impressive. Their sole mission in life is to get the boozy brunch/yoga lifestyle. I've had a really dull girl ask me if I work in the FO.

Also, you are obviously still young...if I could eek out a decent living as a surf instructor for the next few decades, I would donate all of my suits to Goodwill and start tomorrow. Wait until a few years of the grind...your perspective will change.

Please don't quote Patrick Bateman.
 
jcpenny

Say you work the back office securing fresh lines of [white illegal substance] for the bank. Someone has to do it. All the biddies love a thug.

How does one become a substance procurer for an investment bank? Sounds like more fun than my current job.

Also, people are taking this thread way too seriously. This is not a serious thread. And posting serious things anywhere before 10am on a Monday is just... off

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If I were working at a BB for PWM in NYC, I would just tell people I'm working on Wall Street. Most laymen, including New Yorkers, have no clue what PWM is but obviously know all about Wall St.

"The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer."
 
Think_Excelsior

My favorite line to drop on chicks in NYC is that I "Manage a McDonald's in Midtown" - if she can't pick up on the sarcasm she ain't worth a drink

I prefer the cigarette lighter repair man routine. When they give you a puzzled look you explain that a bentley or maybach owner isn't going to throw their entire car away because the lighter broke, they call you. If she thinks this is a real thing you walk away, if she finds it funny you buy her a drink.

 

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