A girl laughed when I said PWM
wtf? We met a bar and talked for a few minutes then she asked why i was in NYC for the summer and I said I'm doing an internship at [bank} for private wealth management. then she f***g laughed for a second like it was a joke.
Even though I missed out on an IB summer spot (rising junior) I'm still in NYC for the summer for a BB PWM position and doing a good job / like the work so far. I'm not a surf instructor from California "just ridin' through life man" but man I'm not some uptight quant (you all know who I'm referring to) either.
Is this a general trend in girls in NYC (e.g. they're reading betches love this (google "166. Investment Bankers - Betches Love This") or did i just strike out and meet the wrong girl? I'm from a smaller town and state school in midwest so not really used to this kind of bar scene. whether it matters or not she said she did something in consulting, she fit the type imo.
Anyone else in PWM get this kind of treatment? should i be ashamed?
Your self-esteem is Vikrum tier
who is vikrum
dude, just shake it off. who cares what she thinks
Only be worried if she laughs when you drop your pants.
GENIUS!!!
Listen to me man, sounds like she doesn't appreciate a well-balanced 401k portfolio. Fuck that slut. You can do better than a girl that judges you based on a summer internship. She would've been a one night stand anyways so no real losses there. Keep on killing it champ.
Being a surf instructor doesn't sound bad at all. In 10 or 15 years you will understand. But for now enjoy life and don't worry about stupid people.
This.
Good point Dick. Did anyone hear that LA life guards average 6 figures? Imagine that, for watching the bay.
Good responses. Echo @JYFresh and @sfbroker
Why do I feel like the reason she loled is because you were doing an internship. Maybe she just thought you were young. I doubt the fact it was pwm vs anything else mattered.
That's probably not the type of girl you'd want anyways. She is probably trying to look for the next Jamie.
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hah I laughed at the part when you said she loled, I can only imagine the horrid look in your face when she laughed. Don't be so self conscious though, you can't control what people say or think about you. All you can do it improve yourself and laugh back at that bitch when you're happy with who you are and what you do.
She probably laughed because got fae too specific and weird with her."I work in finance". That's what you say every time. The less you say the better.
Also, get some fucking self esteem.
lol @ u laughing at quants who make double your annualized income + projected bonus (inflated 30% for good measure)
yeah but at the end of the day they're still quants
Yet here you are crying because someone belittled you for being in PWM... Calm down snowflake, NYC is a big city and there are plenty of girls. You probably won't even see her again.
How did you meet her?
classy women never laugh in your face, move on bud.
try this next time, when a girl does something like this, say "next" and then walk away. she'll be confused and you'll feel confident. for monkeys under 25, Next was a TV show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_(TV_series)) and I've seen this move perfected at bars by some of my college friends when they were talking with snobby girls. my school went through a transition from being a place to beach bums to a place for snobs in short order, so there was plenty of "nexting" Thursday nights.
echoing @"sfbroker" comments, don't diss being a surf instructor, I did that before PWM, best job in the world.
Always wanted to be on that Next bus. Looked like a hell of a better time than going on the actual date.
i was going to toss my drink on her but yeah this sounds like better advice
That is brilliant! hahah
thebrofessor said it perfectly. Move on dude. Chances are she doesn't know dick about PWM and that she only knows what her IBD/Buyside former one-night stands have told her. The JAPs in NYC are dogshit anyway. You like PWM? Try to swing an FT gig in SF or LA. Great $$$, great hours, and the women know nothing of finance. They're also hotter too...
Maybe she was laughing because you're only an intern and she thought you were a few years older/she's several years older.
She laughed because you told her you were doing PWM at a BB. She doesn't care for specifics when you work in finance, just tell her you work at a bank. Simple.
What's funny is she'd love to have a husband 10 yrs from now working PWM hours and making the same $$.
Yeah, I never tell people what I do. I don't want to explain it nor do I care about making meaningful small talk with a random chick. And LOL at her for laughing at your internship. Unless she knows the details of each PWM group, comp structure, how they pay interns, etc then she is a moron.
I'd forget about it dude. She probably works at MAC cosmetics or some shit.
haha do people seriously answer that question in this manner?
"What do i do sweetheart? Let me tell you...I am a pre-MBA associate at a well-renowned private equity fund, KKR, you may have heard about it. Today at work I constructed a leveraged buyout model."
Just say you "work in finance" and theres a 99% chance they wont dig deeper than that, if they do the most they will follow up with is "what bank do you work for" and thats if they are trying hard to feign interest in your boring career in finance. No girl has ever been seduced or aroused by the thought of a guy working in finance. Do you think laywers are cool/interesting/sexy/mysterious?? Nope. Thats what they think about you.
If you want to impress random women at the bar with your profession either start lying or get a new job.
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How you should've done it:
Why does PWM suck? (Originally Posted: 08/12/2010)
Title says it all. Just curious what the comments will bring.
just get off the site.
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Dude, it's facetious.
it doesnt
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Come down south, PWM still considered above real estate agent status
She thought that you were lying about working in PWM or some other guys said the same thing.
Lol you are giving this broad way too much credit. It's funny because there is a 100% chance she had no fucking idea what PWM actually is
I think it's just because you went too in-depth with your answer. Just say, "I work in finance."
She may have thought it was impressive and she's just a giggly person who laughs in that kind of predicament for some reason..
You could have just told her the name of the firm at which you work.
You should have told you work at Pierce & Pierce and asked if she’d heard of it.
You should have told you work at Pierce & Pierce and asked if she’d heard of it.
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Shes likely too dumb to realize that guys who run the PWM divisions spend more time playing golf with rich people than they do in the office having coronaries freaking out about some huge M&A pitch that they will never get because they don't work at Goldman.
I'm trying to decide if this is a troll post or not :/
You're either a lawyer who became a banker/hedge fund analyst/ who buys companies to restructure them, or you're nothing bro. Welcome to NYC.
As a NYC'ER I must say that the average aspiring model/actress has a pretty good command over understanding job titles and more importantly what kind of comp you make. It's actually kind of impressive. Their sole mission in life is to get the boozy brunch/yoga lifestyle. I've had a really dull girl ask me if I work in the FO.
Also, you are obviously still young...if I could eek out a decent living as a surf instructor for the next few decades, I would donate all of my suits to Goodwill and start tomorrow. Wait until a few years of the grind...your perspective will change.
Saying: 'I work in finance' is the most cliche thing going, just say you're a doctor or something.
Say you work the back office securing fresh lines of [white illegal substance] for the bank. Someone has to do it. All the biddies love a thug.
Also, people are taking this thread way too seriously. This is not a serious thread. And posting serious things anywhere before 10am on a Monday is just... off
Are you sure she laughed specifically at your internship?
If I were working at a BB for PWM in NYC, I would just tell people I'm working on Wall Street. Most laymen, including New Yorkers, have no clue what PWM is but obviously know all about Wall St.
My favorite line to drop on chicks in NYC is that I "Manage a McDonald's in Midtown" - if she can't pick up on the sarcasm she ain't worth a drink
I prefer the cigarette lighter repair man routine. When they give you a puzzled look you explain that a bentley or maybach owner isn't going to throw their entire car away because the lighter broke, they call you. If she thinks this is a real thing you walk away, if she finds it funny you buy her a drink.
As wise Michael Scott once said, you should tell her you are a Bank Teller, because Ryan says to always say you work in finance.
Best answer:
"I own a bunch of sweatshops in the Philippines... You should see those kids make those hats"
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