An IB MD, whoop-dee-doo. None of his background matters, anyways, except his current job. It's not where you start, it's where you end up.
And, oh yeah, I met a guy, well, actually I know him well, that never went to college...owns a business worth $20+ million.
Go take a risk. Learn an industry, start a business.
This. I know a guy who went to an average state school and sold his title company for half a billion in his forties. This guy bought pretty much bought every supercar imaginable (Lamborghini Reventon was one of his 15 lamborghinis and ferraris). Now he just has fun.
They're all still slaves. I'd rather be MJ or Lebron any day. Workout all the time and get paid hundreds of millions for it. The Jordan brand grosses $800 million a year in revenues. Not sure what his take is but it's not too bad for doing nothing.
People tend to think life is a race with other people. They don't realize that every moment they spend sprinting towards the finish line is a moment they lose permanently, and a moment closer to their death.
If Andrew Mason had a LinkedIn, here's what it would say:
Age 15 - started a bagel delivery company, made a few bucks
Age 18 - attended the University of Chicago, majored in music something
Age 24 - 25 - attended JHU's public policy program
Age 26 - got pissed off at AT&T for screwing me over, started "ThePoint" as a gimmick to vent
Age 26.5 - Built Groupon for fun, first store was a pizza shop in some random chicago office building
Age 27 - Groupon Yr 1 -> generates $500 million in revenue
Age 28 - Groupon Yr 2 -> on track to generate $1.5 BILLION in revenie, 35 MILLION unique users
Age 28.5 - Sells Groupon, a project that took a total of less than 2 years, to Google for a cool $6 BILLION.
^
Win. No one beats that. No one.
If Andrew Mason had a LinkedIn, here's what it would say:
Age 15 - started a bagel delivery company, made a few bucks
Age 18 - attended the University of Chicago, majored in music something
Age 24 - 25 - attended JHU's public policy program
Age 26 - got pissed off at AT&T for screwing me over, started "ThePoint" as a gimmick to vent
Age 26.5 - Built Groupon for fun, first store was a pizza shop in some random chicago office building
Age 27 - Groupon Yr 1 -> generates $500 million in revenue
Age 28 - Groupon Yr 2 -> on track to generate $1.5 BILLION in revenie, 35 MILLION unique users
Age 28.5 - Sells Groupon, a project that took a total of less than 2 years, to Google for a cool $6 BILLION.
^
Win. No one beats that. No one.
Um, yes among many of the modern titans of industry that beat that profile, there's someone younger, with a much more successful site, who has a higher net worth, his name is Mark and it's not even close.
“Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do”
If Andrew Mason had a LinkedIn, here's what it would say:
Age 15 - started a bagel delivery company, made a few bucks
Age 18 - attended the University of Chicago, majored in music something
Age 24 - 25 - attended JHU's public policy program
Age 26 - got pissed off at AT&T for screwing me over, started "ThePoint" as a gimmick to vent
Age 26.5 - Built Groupon for fun, first store was a pizza shop in some random chicago office building
Age 27 - Groupon Yr 1 -> generates $500 million in revenue
Age 28 - Groupon Yr 2 -> on track to generate $1.5 BILLION in revenie, 35 MILLION unique users
Age 28.5 - Sells Groupon, a project that took a total of less than 2 years, to Google for a cool $6 BILLION.
^
Win. No one beats that. No one.
I know this guy, who makes an average salary, but has a great family, a great wife and awesome kids, friends from way back who he still keeps in touch with, and he has time to see all of them them. On top of that he loves his job and has enough money to send his kids to college and retire nicely.
I know this guy, who makes an average salary, but has a great family, a great wife and awesome kids, friends from way back who he still keeps in touch with, and he has time to see all of them them. On top of that he loves his job and has enough money to send his kids to college and retire nicely.
Editor of Harvard Law Review is an impressive accomplishment in its own right.
Only got it because he was black. And that's a fact.
Yup. Obama has never released his transcript or test scores, which is something even Bush did. Don't get me wrong; he's a decently smart guy, but blacks get a HUGE boost through affirmative action and other favors from liberal whites.
Although these might not be the most elite schools some of us could think of, this guy's resume is pretty impressive, if not just because of the exhaustive nature of all his accomplishments.
MBA, University of Pennsylvania’s The Wharton School
J.D., Seton Hall University School of Law (Full Scholarship, Presidential Honors Program, completed all law courses in under 2 years)
M.S. in Accountancy, Zicklin School of Business’s Baruch College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude)
B.S. in Computer Science, Rutgers College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude, completed all courses in 3 years)
Calculus Instructor, Rutgers
CPA (Certified Public Accountant)
CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst)
CIRA (Certified Insolvency and Restructuring Advisor)
CDBV (Certification in Distressed Business Valuation)
CFE (Certified Fraud Examiner)
CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics)
PMP (Project Management Professional)
PMI-RMP (Risk Management Professional)
CLSSBB (Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt)
Passed the NY and NJ Bar exams
NYC Marathon and NYC Triathlon
Hiked to Everest Base Camp,
Licensed Instrument Pilot
PADI Certified Advanced Scuba Diver
Explored all 7 continents & over 75 countries
Loves to read (lol)
Yes, this guy does exist. I don't know him personally, but looked at some deals his firm was shopping.
Regards
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Although these might not be the most elite schools some of us could think of, this guy's resume is pretty impressive, if not just because of the exhaustive nature of all his accomplishments.
MBA, University of Pennsylvania’s The Wharton School
J.D., Seton Hall University School of Law (Full Scholarship, Presidential Honors Program, completed all law courses in under 2 years)
M.S. in Accountancy, Zicklin School of Business’s Baruch College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude)
B.S. in Computer Science, Rutgers College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude, completed all courses in 3 years)
Calculus Instructor, Rutgers
CPA (Certified Public Accountant)
CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst)
CIRA (Certified Insolvency and Restructuring Advisor)
CDBV (Certification in Distressed Business Valuation)
CFE (Certified Fraud Examiner)
CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics)
PMP (Project Management Professional)
PMI-RMP (Risk Management Professional)
CLSSBB (Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt)
Passed the NY and NJ Bar exams
NYC Marathon and NYC Triathlon
Hiked to Everest Base Camp,
Licensed Instrument Pilot
PADI Certified Advanced Scuba Diver
Explored all 7 continents & over 75 countries
Loves to read (lol)
Yes, this guy does exist. I don't know him personally, but looked at some deals his firm was shopping.
Regards
There's nothing spectacular about having one useless academic qualification after another.
Although these might not be the most elite schools some of us could think of, this guy's resume is pretty impressive, if not just because of the exhaustive nature of all his accomplishments.
MBA, University of Pennsylvania’s The Wharton School
J.D., Seton Hall University School of Law (Full Scholarship, Presidential Honors Program, completed all law courses in under 2 years)
M.S. in Accountancy, Zicklin School of Business’s Baruch College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude)
B.S. in Computer Science, Rutgers College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude, completed all courses in 3 years)
Calculus Instructor, Rutgers
CPA (Certified Public Accountant)
CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst)
CIRA (Certified Insolvency and Restructuring Advisor)
CDBV (Certification in Distressed Business Valuation)
CFE (Certified Fraud Examiner)
CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics)
PMP (Project Management Professional)
PMI-RMP (Risk Management Professional)
CLSSBB (Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt)
Passed the NY and NJ Bar exams
NYC Marathon and NYC Triathlon
Hiked to Everest Base Camp,
Licensed Instrument Pilot
PADI Certified Advanced Scuba Diver
Explored all 7 continents & over 75 countries
Loves to read (lol)
Yes, this guy does exist. I don't know him personally, but looked at some deals his firm was shopping.
Regards
There's nothing spectacular about having one useless academic qualification after another.
True. I've met people who had a rich collection of useless qualifications. They want to impress others, but aren't the most practical bunch. Instead of achieving professional successes, they prefer to collect tons of certificates because they think that stamps will make them more impressive. In the end, they end up bitter, grumbling about how the world isn't fair and how less qualified people get ahead, while they are passed up for jobs, promotions or whatever.
Hate to bring back an old thread, but I had to share this dude's bio:
"Joel Hornstein – Principal, Chief Investment Officer
Before founding Structural, Mr. Hornstein was Managing Director of Capital Allocation at Citigroup, where he restructured how Citigroup hedged its foreign capital, redefined how the company externally reported and internally evaluated business unit performance, and implemented uniform measures of risk and capital usage. He previously was an investment banker with Goldman Sachs, where he worked in financial services M&A and in multi-asset class derivatives, a consultant in McKinsey & Company's financial services practice, and a private equity investor with the Fremont Group. Mr. Hornstein is also a former captain in the United States Army Reserve. He holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, where he earned Honors in fourteen fields (including all tax fields) and was a Senior Editor of the Yale Law Journal. Mr. Hornstein earned his undergraduate degree in Economics magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard College. He is a Trustee of the Center for Employment Opportunities."
Harvard, Yale Law, GS, McK, Army captain, Citi exec, and founder/CEO of his own firm. Pretty baller.
I would rather be the 29 year old partner with an undergrad degree than the guy that attended 3 different schools (dropping 200k+ at each) and jumped shop to 4 different firms in 2 different industries. Think about it? Who is smarter/better at what they do?
Important to stop being blinded by a bunch of names thrown together in a resume. Be impressed by the guy who hacked his way to the top by being focused and very good at the job.
I would rather be the 29 year old partner with an undergrad degree than the guy that attended 3 different schools (dropping 200k+ at each) and jumped shop to 4 different firms in 2 different industries. Think about it? Who is smarter/better at what they do?
One guy is smarter at what he does, and the other guy is likely smarter overall (in the sense that he knows more things). The guy with all the degrees maybe did it out of a love for learning, as opposed to primarily career motivations. He also might have bounced around a lot before finding his true passion. You shouldn't assume that was his strategy for becoming mega-rich.
I would rather be the 29 year old partner with an undergrad degree than the guy that attended 3 different schools (dropping 200k+ at each) and jumped shop to 4 different firms in 2 different industries. Think about it? Who is smarter/better at what they do?
One guy is smarter at what he does, and the other guy is likely smarter overall (in the sense that he knows more things). The guy with all the degrees maybe did it out of a love for learning, as opposed to primarily career motivations. He also might have bounced around a lot before finding his true passion. You shouldn't assume that was his strategy for becoming mega-rich.
Most people do not seek credentials for a "love of learning". Maybe they might get a PhD. I have yet to know a guy who voluntarily went to law school in order to indulge in his love to learn about the legal system. Law, business, medicine are professional schools for a reason. Their job is to train you for a career.
Knowing more things has less to do with getting academic stamps and more to do with your mindset. You also learn a lot more about an industry by actually working in it than observing it from the ivory tower. Business is a professional field. At the end of the day your career performance is your credential. It isn't similar to being a mathematician where you reside in academia so your career performance is your academic creds.
Nothing against getting 3 degrees (and 600k+ in expenses) but I would rather be the guy that ends up in the same job with as little time spent in academia as possible.
I would rather be the 29 year old partner with an undergrad degree than the guy that attended 3 different schools (dropping 200k+ at each) and jumped shop to 4 different firms in 2 different industries. Think about it? Who is smarter/better at what they do?
One guy is smarter at what he does, and the other guy is likely smarter overall (in the sense that he knows more things). The guy with all the degrees maybe did it out of a love for learning, as opposed to primarily career motivations. He also might have bounced around a lot before finding his true passion. You shouldn't assume that was his strategy for becoming mega-rich.
all the people I know that piss about with getting a master right after undergrad(and a non professional school master), or do a phd or do a second degree don't do so because theyre smart, or because they love learning.
They do so because theyre lazy fuck ups who cba to start working.
just fuck credentials, the guy that starts his own hedgefund/becomes partner at kkr with just an undergrad is who you want to be. Not some fuck up with a phd that now works at f500.
By the time of her 2009 graduation from Nightingale-Bamford, the private all-girls school on the Upper East Side, Miss Nagel had founded Model United Nations and history clubs, a travel Web site for teenagers, playintraffic.com, and another site, americansformadison.org, intended to raise awareness of her hero, the founding father James Madison, and win him a federal monument.
Along the way, Miss Nagel befriended some prominent historians and at 17, became the youngest registered lobbyist on Capitol Hill. She is currently a sophomore at Johns Hopkins, double-majoring in international relations and history, with a minor in voice (a coloratura soprano, she recently recorded a CD of operatic arias).
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occidental college..... ewwwww
I forgot where I saw this - it was linked on another website (autoadmit). But basically this guy had:
Harvard undergrad Rhodes Scholar McKinsey 2 years HLS / HBS (JD/MBA) (Summer at Goldman Sachs) Joined Cravath out of HLS Lateraled over to KKR.
The guy was good looking too. Life isn't fair.
No matter where you go, you can't beat President of the United States. Anyways, met an MD at GS, this was his past:
Carnegie Mellon Chemical Engineering (undergrad/masters)
Analyst - JP Morgan Associate (Consultant) - McKinsey VP - Morgan Stanley MD - Goldman Sachs
An IB MD, whoop-dee-doo. None of his background matters, anyways, except his current job. It's not where you start, it's where you end up.
And, oh yeah, I met a guy, well, actually I know him well, that never went to college...owns a business worth $20+ million.
Go take a risk. Learn an industry, start a business.
This. I know a guy who went to an average state school and sold his title company for half a billion in his forties. This guy bought pretty much bought every supercar imaginable (Lamborghini Reventon was one of his 15 lamborghinis and ferraris). Now he just has fun.
They're all still slaves. I'd rather be MJ or Lebron any day. Workout all the time and get paid hundreds of millions for it. The Jordan brand grosses $800 million a year in revenues. Not sure what his take is but it's not too bad for doing nothing.
Don't MJ/Lebron HAVE to show up and entertain the people and work for their team OWNERS and make them money too? So, not far from slaves as well.
I heard about this guy who is worth about $54 billion. His resume was pretty lame, Harvard undergrad dropout? I mean come on.
Haha nice LI. And no way TopDGO, who drops out of Harvard UG? I bet if hey stayed he'd be worth $54.5 billion at LEAST.
if he stayed in harvard he wouldnt have time do what ever he did....;)
I know EJ :-p
And shit, I tried to grab Jintao Hu's LI but he doesn't have one. Damnit, I coulda one-upped BO, too.
hopefully someone can beat that linkedin in 2012
If Andrew Mason had a LinkedIn, here's what it would say:
Age 15 - started a bagel delivery company, made a few bucks Age 18 - attended the University of Chicago, majored in music something Age 24 - 25 - attended JHU's public policy program Age 26 - got pissed off at AT&T for screwing me over, started "ThePoint" as a gimmick to vent Age 26.5 - Built Groupon for fun, first store was a pizza shop in some random chicago office building Age 27 - Groupon Yr 1 -> generates $500 million in revenue Age 28 - Groupon Yr 2 -> on track to generate $1.5 BILLION in revenie, 35 MILLION unique users Age 28.5 - Sells Groupon, a project that took a total of less than 2 years, to Google for a cool $6 BILLION. ^ Win. No one beats that. No one.
Um, yes among many of the modern titans of industry that beat that profile, there's someone younger, with a much more successful site, who has a higher net worth, his name is Mark and it's not even close.
I thought the groupon/google deal was off?
I know this guy, who makes an average salary, but has a great family, a great wife and awesome kids, friends from way back who he still keeps in touch with, and he has time to see all of them them. On top of that he loves his job and has enough money to send his kids to college and retire nicely.
o_o what does he do?
Editor of Harvard Law Review is an impressive accomplishment in its own right.
Only got it because he was black. And that's a fact.
Yup. Obama has never released his transcript or test scores, which is something even Bush did. Don't get me wrong; he's a decently smart guy, but blacks get a HUGE boost through affirmative action and other favors from liberal whites.
That 54billion dropout is a genius anyway, so school work or name don't seem too important for him
Although these might not be the most elite schools some of us could think of, this guy's resume is pretty impressive, if not just because of the exhaustive nature of all his accomplishments.
MBA, University of Pennsylvania’s The Wharton School
J.D., Seton Hall University School of Law (Full Scholarship, Presidential Honors Program, completed all law courses in under 2 years)
M.S. in Accountancy, Zicklin School of Business’s Baruch College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude)
B.S. in Computer Science, Rutgers College (Valedictorian, Summa Cum Laude, completed all courses in 3 years)
Calculus Instructor, Rutgers
CPA (Certified Public Accountant) CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) CIRA (Certified Insolvency and Restructuring Advisor) CDBV (Certification in Distressed Business Valuation) CFE (Certified Fraud Examiner) CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics) PMP (Project Management Professional) PMI-RMP (Risk Management Professional) CLSSBB (Certified Lean Six Sigma Black Belt)
Passed the NY and NJ Bar exams
NYC Marathon and NYC Triathlon Hiked to Everest Base Camp, Licensed Instrument Pilot PADI Certified Advanced Scuba Diver Explored all 7 continents & over 75 countries Loves to read (lol)
Yes, this guy does exist. I don't know him personally, but looked at some deals his firm was shopping.
Regards
True. I've met people who had a rich collection of useless qualifications. They want to impress others, but aren't the most practical bunch. Instead of achieving professional successes, they prefer to collect tons of certificates because they think that stamps will make them more impressive. In the end, they end up bitter, grumbling about how the world isn't fair and how less qualified people get ahead, while they are passed up for jobs, promotions or whatever.
The first (BS) job I took out of undergrad for one year, the CEO:
-- Princeton ugrad -- Rhode Scholar -- Stanford Law -- McKinsey -- CEO at 7+ small (EBITDA though in 2006 right before their numbers hit the shit.
Hate to bring back an old thread, but I had to share this dude's bio:
"Joel Hornstein – Principal, Chief Investment Officer Before founding Structural, Mr. Hornstein was Managing Director of Capital Allocation at Citigroup, where he restructured how Citigroup hedged its foreign capital, redefined how the company externally reported and internally evaluated business unit performance, and implemented uniform measures of risk and capital usage. He previously was an investment banker with Goldman Sachs, where he worked in financial services M&A and in multi-asset class derivatives, a consultant in McKinsey & Company's financial services practice, and a private equity investor with the Fremont Group. Mr. Hornstein is also a former captain in the United States Army Reserve. He holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, where he earned Honors in fourteen fields (including all tax fields) and was a Senior Editor of the Yale Law Journal. Mr. Hornstein earned his undergraduate degree in Economics magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard College. He is a Trustee of the Center for Employment Opportunities."
Harvard, Yale Law, GS, McK, Army captain, Citi exec, and founder/CEO of his own firm. Pretty baller.
I would rather be the 29 year old partner with an undergrad degree than the guy that attended 3 different schools (dropping 200k+ at each) and jumped shop to 4 different firms in 2 different industries. Think about it? Who is smarter/better at what they do?
Important to stop being blinded by a bunch of names thrown together in a resume. Be impressed by the guy who hacked his way to the top by being focused and very good at the job.
One guy is smarter at what he does, and the other guy is likely smarter overall (in the sense that he knows more things). The guy with all the degrees maybe did it out of a love for learning, as opposed to primarily career motivations. He also might have bounced around a lot before finding his true passion. You shouldn't assume that was his strategy for becoming mega-rich.
Most people do not seek credentials for a "love of learning". Maybe they might get a PhD. I have yet to know a guy who voluntarily went to law school in order to indulge in his love to learn about the legal system. Law, business, medicine are professional schools for a reason. Their job is to train you for a career.
Knowing more things has less to do with getting academic stamps and more to do with your mindset. You also learn a lot more about an industry by actually working in it than observing it from the ivory tower. Business is a professional field. At the end of the day your career performance is your credential. It isn't similar to being a mathematician where you reside in academia so your career performance is your academic creds.
Nothing against getting 3 degrees (and 600k+ in expenses) but I would rather be the guy that ends up in the same job with as little time spent in academia as possible.
They do so because theyre lazy fuck ups who cba to start working.
just fuck credentials, the guy that starts his own hedgefund/becomes partner at kkr with just an undergrad is who you want to be. Not some fuck up with a phd that now works at f500.
Li Lu--simultaneous bachelors in economics , MBA, and JD from Columbia
pretty easy to beat.
drop out of highschool at 16. Start up own company. sell it at aged 25 for 100m. retire.
I think I've got a winner:
"When you read out her résumé, you just want to throw up in a bucket"
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/fashion/26DCDEB.html?_r=1&pagewanted=…
By the time of her 2009 graduation from Nightingale-Bamford, the private all-girls school on the Upper East Side, Miss Nagel had founded Model United Nations and history clubs, a travel Web site for teenagers, playintraffic.com, and another site, americansformadison.org, intended to raise awareness of her hero, the founding father James Madison, and win him a federal monument.
Along the way, Miss Nagel befriended some prominent historians and at 17, became the youngest registered lobbyist on Capitol Hill. She is currently a sophomore at Johns Hopkins, double-majoring in international relations and history, with a minor in voice (a coloratura soprano, she recently recorded a CD of operatic arias).
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