CF BIG4 Poland -> BB IB London (when should I start networking?)

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Hello everyone.
I'm a recent graduate from Warsaw School of Economics with a terrible GPA, which I believe is near to the median GPA (4.16/5.00). I've been working for one of the BIG4 firms for several months now. As you can imagine, I can't brag about grades I amassed throughout my college journey. Nevertheless, I managed to get admitted to a RSM Finance & Investment program (2019/2020). I plan to be a total nerd; I have a knowledge gap, which I need to fill and a top GPA would be hearty welcome.
Before I move to Rotterdam, I will have been working for over a year at a BIG4's advisory CF M&A team. Unfortunately, I am not being given possibility to gain any experience with modelling so that's something I'm going to take care of on my own (through books and courses available online). I want to land a job in London. I'm far from hopeful to get an offer from GS/MS or EBs, and I'll be more than happy to even break into a MM IB in London, but I'm going to try anyway.

The questions is: when should I start networking given my low undergrad GPA? Is it possible to land an offer while still being in the Netherlands? I don't think I'd land a temporary offer in the Netherlands either (language barrier and lack of vacancies).

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Comments (11)

Dec 4, 2018


Dec 4, 2018

Apply for internships when you get to RSM. It's never too early to start networking. Good luck.

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Dec 4, 2018

Will surely consider that.

Thank you.

Dec 4, 2018

You can however come back to Poland and try to get into some BB and big financial firm that I know are expanding in Warsaw...
from what I know and from sporadic experiences I had in the country I think future in Poland can be very positive and, more importantly, after having entered in a good spot there you can try to move to London within the same firm also beacuse it is easier to find a good post in Poland being polish than find a spot in London without a degree in UK

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Dec 4, 2018

At this moment, there's no big brand with M&A activity in Poland, except for Rothschild. Even if I'm being mistaken, there are hardly any vacancies; as far as I know Rothschild hires only 1 or 2 interns a year and, as you may imagine, the competition is fierce (not to mention that as intern you work 20 hours a day and can barely afford to pay your rent; and I've seen people interning there for a year or so). Also, I haven't heard of anyone who managed to get in as analyst before interning in Rothschild in Poland, though. Let me say it clear: I will consider interning for 500EUR net/month (while having in excess of one year of experience in M&A and a master's degree) only when everything else fails.

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Dec 4, 2018

pm me

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Dec 5, 2018

PMed. Thanks.

Dec 6, 2018

Best strat to London from Rotterdam will be to get high grades and apply to the FSR/FSA (financial student associations of Amsterdam and Rotterdam) Banking Cycle.

Competition is insane though and it's all about grades, think 8.0/10 gpa as an absolute bare minimum. Having worked for Big4 at that stage will be in your advantage though, as it is common in the Netherlands to get into your masters directly out of your bachelor's program (although less and less).

Good luck and have fun, Finance & Investments is an awesome program.

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Dec 17, 2018

Thank you.

Jan 4, 2019

The move is not too unlikely, especially since RSM is viewed favorably in London IBs. I would try and find alums from your programme in London and just message them on LinkedIn. Some may get back to you and let you know what your chances are. Brexit might be a factor over the next couple of months though and recruitment may slow down.

I know two people that went to the same RSM programme straight after undergrad in Eastern Europe a few years ago and then joined MM ECM and BB Corporate Banking (the latter then moved to MM IB) in London. And they both landed offers while still studying in NL.

Also, I think quite a few IB roles in the Netherlands don't require Dutch, although it's a very small market compared to London.

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Jan 12, 2019