Comparing offers: Dyal and Co vs UBS?
Hoping to make the move to PE. Currently leaning Dyal as exits on average and the learning experience seem much better. Curious what others would do in the same shoes.
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Easily Dyal unless you're keen on leaving finance. Everyone I know at UBS in IB is looking to jump ship.
Dyal for sure
curious what would people think if CS was in play?
Depends on group.
Dyal
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100% dyal.
200% dyal.
will say with dyal that its a one-man kinda shop. basically using gordon’s name and reputation to win deals
Do you think that means anything in terms of exits, learning experience, or comp?
wtf is a "Dyal"
facts bro i never heard of dyal wtf
Same here lmao
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/4d59b1ac-1140-11e9-a581…
ok, what the heck is Dyal? It looks like it's some raine or something with solid experience but not a known name. Do PE firms really know what Dyal is? I would take any well-known BB or EB over this company since if you were to leave finance, literally no one would know what company this is. The name sounds like a boutque shop
Someone give me three amazing deals that they've been on in the past year and I will believe you. Five owuld be even better.
Ok this guy has no idea what he's talking about. PE funds dont actually care about the brand name as much as people think. Brand name like where you went to school is a signal - ppl at GS / MS place well not bc of the firm name but bc they actually are capable of the work. Experience matters much much more - only time that a brand name can help is with headhunters, but HH have dyal on the radar and you will get worked at dyal whether or not you like it. All that to say you will be more technically equipped and have worked on massive deals relative to the guys at UBS who are pitching all day.
You said all this but no facts. Tell me some deals they have worked on this year that are big and I will concede.
They worked on the mega merger Bristol Myers Celgene in 2019.
One deal with two analysts and two good exit opps. Good for them.
Now I need two more. Any from this year yet?
Dude how the fuck would I know, I don’t work there. I’m telling you it’s a good shop.
I just looked it up and they made $55mm from that deal alone. And it’s not just one deal it’s literally the largest healthcare m&a deal ever.
And they have several more multi billion dollar deals like Amgen/Orezia($13bn). The team is like 10-15 people so they have like 4 analysts.
I don’t feel qualified to advise one way or another. What I will say, however, is that I’d caution against putting too much weight into advice from a forum comprised of mostly ~20 year olds. I also wouldn’t completely discount UBS - they still are a bulge bracket at the end of the day.
Yes, join a solid group and you should be fine just like with any IB!
UBS is bottom tier. You'd likely exit to low to mid MM PE fund. Dyal if youve got an offer from them. Recent exits have been to megafunds and UMM like KKR
Hey prospect, try and get a job at a bank first.
Looks like you guys love the hand soap Dyal or something. Fine, looks like I don't know enough and you all are great.
Go with Dyal if you really want PE then. Otherwise, a more well known bank will offer better opportunities
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