Cornell Dyson vs USC (undergrad)
- The goal is west coast banking, specifically LA.
- Would prefer going to USC over Cornell (location, girls, culture)
- Got half tuition off at USC, no aid from Cornell
- I know Cornell is much more of a target than USC, but heard some great things about USC's placement on the west coast. Would it be dumb to turn down an ivy?
It’s not that Cornell is more of a target than USC, it’s that USC isn’t a target to begin with. Sounds like an easy choice to me
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Ignore whoever made that comment above, I was in your shoes - had to choose between USC, Michigan Ross, Stern and Cornell. At the time I didn't even know what investment banking was but chose USC for a lot of the same reasons you mentioned and ended up at a top BB in NY.
If you want to do West Coast banking, USC is a target for almost any firm, this past cycle has PJT Tech M&A, Moelis LA, CS LA, GS TMT, CVP, EVC Menlo etc. If your on your shit and have a good GPA with good internships/EC's you would get a look from any firm in the west coast. If you wanna do NY IB, I would urge you to choose Cornell. I personally was able to break into NY IB from USC but it was extremely difficult as we are a non/semi target in NY due to the fact that majority of people stay in LA/SF.
If I was in your shoes this would be an easy decision. Culturally, USC >>> Cornell (way better weather, way more fun, girls are not comparable). What would tip the scales would be if you wanted to work on the East Coast - but since you know you want to do West Coast banking, USC will set you up very well for SF/LA recruiting.
EDIT: Not to mention you'll be paying half the price at USC. Jesus, this shouldn't be close
USC. Cornell is filled with hardos that get zero pussy
I go to USC. If you were wanting to go to NYC I’d say Cornell by a good margin... but if you want to be in LA post grad- USC is the most commonly seen ib, buyside, and real estate analyst in LA. In your shoes I actually don’t think this is a very difficult decision
Cornell is barely an Ivy. While I think US News is fairly useless, note that it ranks Cornell below plenty of non-Ivies (Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Washington University in St. Louis, etc). Forget the Ivy label, USC is clearly better signed with what you are looking for.
Do not listen to these USC frat clowns...
Cornell is a target. USC is not.
The number of Cornellians on the street is not just slightly but literal multiples higher than that of USC.
I swear the tools at USC must’ve discovered WSO for the first time in the past few days because the amount of USC-promoting garbage has been unreal. Only a USC student would ever speak positively about a program like Marshall. What you see on display in this thread is the tard-cult... ahem... i mean the “trojan family”
Yes, Cornell is a target for NY IB.
Yes, USC is not a target for NY IB.
However if you could fucking read that's not what OP asked - he asked which is better for LA/SF IB and if USC was a target in the West Coast, which the answer is yes.
Taking a look at your recent hate towards USC explains everything - sorry you couldn't get in bud.
Homie i thought it was clear from my posts that ucla/usc/berkeley were my safeties/backups behind my real choices.
Listen man, i do this just because I can.
It’s OK to admit that USC rejected you and you’re just salty
First of all, USC was an option.
2nd, i can’t even imagine a circumstance in which your comment would bite.
That’s like saying “sorry to hear you got rejected from Northeastern bro”.
Like where exactly do you think you go to school LMAO
guess we gotta redact
That's awesome, thanks for sharing.
You're not going far in life with this attitude thinking you're better than someone because you go to Georgetown (personally wouldn't even consider this an option if it was free). Regardless, going on a online form to shit on a whole school might be the most egotistical/douchey thing I've seen. I hope for your own good that you change and develop a larger perspective on life than the ranking or how much of a target your school is.
You should hope that no-one finds out who you are cause you will be blacklisted from firms. Cheers kid.
whatever
Always surprises me to see people act this way online. I'm ok with people lying about their stats, admissions, school's placement, etc... but the amount of disrespect and rudeness you seem to show is unbelievable.
You hide behind an anonymous name thinking your invisible and yet you have managed to reveal your school, your grad year, where in the country u went to high school, that it was a private high school with an endowment students could manage, your majors, your minor, what clubs at your college you're involved with, your interest in fintech (and apparently some fintech start up), and the two schools you were ultimately deciding between, amongst other things. Not to mention that if someone wanted to they could easily trace your IP address.
Keep acting this way and one day you're going to piss off the wrong person. Everyone has a few friends at your undergrad b-school, myself included. All it takes is for one person on this forum who is sick of your shit to send a few text messages and suddenly everyone knows who you really are. Give helpful advice or get off this website- dont ruin your career before it begins
Oh what ur gonna expose me by sending some screenshots of me dogging on USC to some rando MSB students and suddenly my career is gonna be over?
Ur a fucking dumbass, dude.
And good luck getting my IP dipshit
No actually. Someone is gonna send them to a parent who's high-up in Ibanking, or maybe someone could just submit some anonymous screenshots to any bank. They'll drop you for messing up a technical, nevermind "USC boys are too busy r@ping women."
And keep acting like you don't care, but I can see you going back right now deleting your offensive or personal comments. Don't worry, this is the internet- they'll exist forever.
Alright well have fun stalking me, i’m gonna call it a night
Hey Scott - I would highly advise you to redact your posts because I found out who you are in less than 5 minutes. I don't give a fuck but someone will actually blacklist you, finance is a small world.
Can we find out who this kid is?
Interned with a few MSB kids at my BB last summer, surely they could blacklist him
Dude why are you so angry you sound absolutely insufferable to be around lmao
Cornell is a target school for NY IBD, USC is not. However for SF/LA banking, USC is a target and Cornell is not. Your comment is not at all objective or helpful. Currently at an EB in SF having gone to school from a Bay Area target.
Since you want to do West Coast banking specifically then you should be fine at USC. I wouldn't listen to most of these guys trashing Cornell though. If you do your research then you'd find that Cornell has a ridiculous alumni presence and is a target for every investment bank. Definitely possible to get into a West Coast firm from Cornell though, not to mention you'll have much better chances at East Coast firms in the event that West Coast recruiting doesn't work out.
Cornell alumnus here. I loved it and know that Cornell accelerated my ability to end up where I am.
USC is not a target, but if you're entrepreneurial, you can make something happen. You will have to work harder and you may find LA more distracting than Ithaca.
Use LinkedIn and check the alumni base of your top banks. If you don't find a lot of USC grads, your odds may be lower.
Also I feel like if you’re someone that wants to live in LA and would enjoy USC, I feel like you would hate Cornell and vice versa. A Cornell 8 has to be like a USC 2 right. That even feels generous
If you are sure you want to do a career in LA or on the West Coast, USC will be more than fine as it's probably the most common target banking school here. You can easily do BB/EB in LA -> MF / UMM PE from USC.
And no offense, but there are some dogwater takes from non-verified users here. Trust the people actually making the hiring decisions (me, lapike, etc.) and not a non-verified "Intern in IB - Gen"
I'd look at it this way if it were me (I go to neither): You are smart enough to get into Cornell so worst case you will perform well at USC if it is as bad as all the people trashing it say. It is a target for West Coast banking with recently people at HL RX, Moelis LA, PJT SF, GS TMT, EVR Tech, etc,. If u have ur shit together you will be alright.
However if you go to USC, make sure you join TIS and get into the mentorship program and you will do just fine: https://trojaninvestingsociety.com/
If money matters to you and you want to be on the West Coast, USC will serve you well. If was Wharton vs USC, perhaps it is a different conversation. I think the tuition difference is pretty key but not for all families and West Coast placements between USC and Cornell will be similar, perhaps even better for USC.
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