Hey,
Has anyone attended Sciences Po on here? All I know is that Macron and pretty all the nation's CEOS and MDs graduated from there and that it has a world-class reputation... :p
I've seen they launched a finance programme and a couple Specialized programmes (Msc Wealth Management and strategy) and might be interested... Any thoughts about it?
Thanks!
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Did not attend Sciences Po but have a couple of friends that attended (MSc corporate finance).
Sciences Po is more like a social science/political science kind of school and your classmates will probably be future politicians.
For banking you should stick with HEC/ESSEC/ESCP until science po business programs get more recognition, even though their political science undergrad program is #1 in France. As for the nation's CEOs, they usually went to l'ENA and/or Ecole polytechnique, HEC.
What about Sciences PO double degree with HEC in finance?
It sounds great, but I'm not familiar with it and it should be pretty selective. I've only heard about the double degree with ecole polytechnique and it is very selective (but then again l'x is much more selective than science po).
Your best bet if you can get an admit
Polytechnique is very good, but it is an engineering school, here I'm talking about economics / business faculties
You should probably try to be clearer when you start a thread then, but it seems like you are interested in the job opportunites/alumni network/brand name, not so much the curriculum.
If you check the Mines 2011 ranking about CEOs and their alma mater for F500 companies (based on numbers of CEOs only): HEC, l’X and l’ENA(only ~130 students each year) are in the top 10, above all American schools except Harvard. Science Po Paris is ranked 17. In the Time ranking 2017 for CEOs and their alma mater (includes revenue of the companies as a criteria), it goes Harvard/Stanford/HEC Paris/l’X and l’ENA 11th. Science Po is ranked 50.
Edit: just read you did BBA essec, meaning you most likely won't get in the GE programs, so I'd indeed apply to science po msc, escp/essec mfin, lse masters, lbs mim, potentially oxbridge and count on the fact that most foreign schools don't know the difference in selectivity between ESSEC GE and ESSEC BBA. I don't really know about the recognition of Bocconi for French recruiters, even less about schools such as SSE etc
Please stop comaring Harvard/Stanford to any European schools, especially the French ones. You french people have absolutely no clue how huge of a difference there is. I had to point out that because these kind of contests look pathetic.
Wanna rank/compare schools/programs? Stick to the school's regional aim, Jesus Christ.
I'm from Sciences Po Paris (non-econ/fin major). To give you my honest opinion, name value is really important in France and ScPo is one of the prestigious names you can proudly present on your CV.
However, if you want to study in France for whatever reason, and your plan is to rest in France, like @WARNY said, I'd say go to HEC/ESSEC/ESCP. Banks are primarily looking for top engineering and business schools (which is clearly stated in their candidate profile). From what I've seen opportunities are narrower for ScPo econ/fin major graduates compared to engineering/business school peers.
MSc PB/Wealth Mgmt didn't exist when I was at a student. I could be wrong but I have a feeling they are changing names to look more like a business school program. Maybe it is worth it but tbh why bother when there are other obvious options on your plate ?
Ok French here,
Macron did not attend to sciences Po for sciences Po itself but because it's the best preparatory class for the ENA admission exam. His finance career has nothing to do with sciences Po but because he went at ENA school and he had a huge network in the government.
Sciences Po is great for diplomacy/government/international organizations career. But for finance it's better to aim HEC/ESSEC/EM LYON/ESCP/INSEAD/EDHEC in France
INSEAD only offers post-experience MBA-only school. It's an international european business school that happens to be headquartered in France. It's no way a French school, per say. Plus, its MBA-program is top notch for Europe, it overwhelmingly outranks any other french school out there for MBA programs. It can't be included as a "french school".
Science Po doesn't have an MBA program. It's an underdog compared to Insead. And even MBA-granting french programs (HEC, Essec) are underdogs as if you decide to throw Insead in the ring.
You might be surprised, but a Science Po business-oriented Master should be a better choice than EMLyon and Edhec, even Escp in some cases.
What was the last time you saw Escp alumni as analysts at Centerview, Deutsche, Citi? Because as of 2017, there are quite a few from Science Po.
How does a country as lazy as the French do something like Investment Banking? Aren't you limited to working 35 hours a week and no email after work?
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Upper midle-class french managers work very hard and the hours are as long as any other highly performing english-speaking country with a strong finance industry (UK, US).
All those steterotypes about french people are just what they are: stereotypes. It's a romantic thing. It attracts wonder, fascination, and ofc tourism.
Those "laws" that seem to restrict working hours are aimed only at entry-level jobs (waiters, call centers, cashiers, mailmen, etc.). That has absolutely nothing to do with college-educated workers.
Working in France, as a highly-educated individual, actually requires a very strong mindset: A close friend of mine interned at a french private bank Banque Transatlantique. His hours, as an off-cycle intern, were 08:00 to 19:00 everyday for 6 months. Sounds long enough. ;)
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