Confirming west coast offices have had layoffs. Multiple analysts were let go.

 

Confirming NY layoffs. Various levels VP/Assoc/Analyst.

 

Idk about layoffs, but I can confirm that they gave out a lower amount of return offers than previous years and also cut signing bonuses. Analysts signing bonuses were cut from 15k to 10k and associates cut from 60k to 45k. Not as bad as Jefferies offer rate this year, but still a good amount of trimming, especially on the summer associate side of things.

 

I’ve heard explicitly they’re downsizing certain coverage groups from reliable sources. “Trimming” is pretty generous and certain groups gave 0 returns.

 

Also want to note that HL significantly lowered bonus figure for analyst (40-50% decrease) on top of laying off mostly analysts across the firm.

 

Ex-HL analyst here - this firm absolutely has no regard for the juniors. They don’t support analyst recruiting for buyside, or pay you well. The downturn is only helping to aggravate this.

 

Second this - HL has been advertising its non-cyclical business model for a very long time. But guess what? They are among the first ones firing analysts into the downturn and cut bonus just to save a couple million bucks.

 

That’s crazy I remember when they came to our campus and had a bunch of slides showing how they actually performed the best in downturns and it was the safest bank to be at when stuff like this happens. Guess that’s not the case fuck those guys honestly

 
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Former analyst here. Can confirm the layoffs across HL per peers that are still at the firm (and personally know a few that were laid off). The ironic thing about HL is that they will go onto college campuses to recruit eager students and say the following: (1) the firm grows during downturns and it is the safest place to be for job security during a recession (idea being that while M&A slows down restructuring revenues pick up and M&A analysts can potentially work cross-laterally on distressed M&A deals), (2) the firm proudly displays its “#1 in M&A in the U.S.” trophy for all to see (#1 in annual number of transactions), (3) strong culture and "friendly" bankers, and (4) HL is one of the most active investment banks when it comes to selling companies to sponsors and HL will connect you with these buyside firms after your analyst stint. These are attractive considerations when it comes to choosing a place to work 80+ hours a week for 2-3 years. So, like many, I drank the Kool-Aid. To address the current state of HL from an analyst's perspective (in the same order as the list above): (1) HL has let go a number of M&A analysts (seems to be mostly second-year analysts who would normally be entering into a third year, but quite a few first-years as well). HL gave many of these analysts little to no notice prior to letting them go (the lucky ones got a month or two notice). (2) #1 in M&A in number of annual transactions... most of the M&A deals HL works on are minimum fee ($1.5M) meaning the deal is under $100M. The infamous revenue-per-head metric at the firm has caused senior bankers to chase any deal with a fee attached to it (e.g. I was staffed on four live deals at once with an aggregate transaction amount of ~$250M). The ranking is not all that HL makes it seem to be. (3) My experience, albeit one perspective, was that the understaffings (due to the revenue-per-head metric) caused a toxic work environment and created a lot of churn at the analyst level. (4) The analyst rotation is three years, and HL has asked analysts to avoid recruiting for any buyside opportunities until after your first year. The firm wants analysts to remain on board for the three-year program and then offers to help M&A analysts connect with buyside firms of interest. I want to emphasize that the firm is not supportive (at least quite a few offices) of analysts recruiting for buyside jobs early on during the analyst cycle. Many analysts that recruit must do so in secret. During two of my super days (cough “sick-days”) with upper MM PE firms, I was working in 10-minute spurts between interviews. Another issue with this model is the fact that analysts who honored HL’s request to not recruit (with the hope / promise to be connected with PE firms later on in the analyst cycle) were completely burned once COVID hit. Recruiting froze and HL laid off many of those same analysts who they asked to not recruit for buyside jobs. And, to nobody’s surprise, did not connect those analysts with PE firms.

You will get a technical work experience at the firm, but it comes at a cost. The firm boasts about its “resilient business model” during downturns (see Bloomberg’s “Houlihan Lokey is the Investment Bank Built or Hard Times” in May 2020) but reality is that it is affected just like every other firm. Revenues are much lower than anticipated. Analysts are getting let go (or informally letting go / not granting a third year to many quality second-year analysts). Bonuses slashed. Doesn’t seem too resilient or secure at the moment. Just my perspective…

 

Ex-HL restructuring analyst here. Echo much of what was said, although bonuses were still pristine for us this year. They are not at all supportive of recruiting elsewhere but are trying to change that as far as I can tell, given that it is a bad look in the current climate where their competitors are generally supportive. The key point to understand about the firm is they play the volume game both in M&A and restructuring. Poster above commented on M&A, but the reason you have heard that HL is the best creditor advisor is because the creditor field is a higher volume lower fee game versus the debtor landscape. Is this bad? Not necessarily but understand this is the business model of the firm, which is why the rankings they show will always show # of deals as their primary statistic. As a side note, restructuring has been fairly overstaffed across all offices (at least the ones I know of) for probably 1-2 years now. My friends on the M&A side were always working way more hours than me, closing more deals than me and earning way less than me especially this past year. Overall RX is a pretty sweet gig because of this but I sympathize with the guys (and girls) on the M&A side.

 

Wow how ironic that one of the so called best RX businesses on the street is the first to let go of analysts.

I remember a few months ago when I was still incoming I was shitting a brick thinking about will I still have my job and my particular field- leveraged finance is called out consistently as being one of the worst places to be during a recession, and its funny because the firm is on track to have its best year in history.... in lev fin..

Goes to show, DO NOT LISTEN to people on WSO, 99% literally do not know what they are talking about.

 

Also need to bear in mind the lower summer 2020 return offer rate that has been discussed in another thread. This place is hell lol

 

Current analyst at the firm here - can confirm about 20-25% analyst are laid off across offices (mixture of first and second year). Would also say that the culture is pretty toxic in the firm with seniors chasing after small and shady deals to meet revenue target. Seniors actually actively persuade analysts not to recruit for the buyside before the end of their two year program, claiming to support analysts when the time come - this happened to me as well.

They also hired a head HR person from Jefferies (very ironic) to help with the analyst work-life balance, and deal with any potential complaints. Guess what? The second you discuss anything negative about the team with this person, it goes straight to the team.

It is just awful that it is cutting analysts instead of trimming fat at the senior level, leaving people with

 

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