Comments (114)

Oct 10, 2016

Let's be honest, it's up to voter turnout right now. The media is 100% in Clinton's pocket and she's playing it safe. I'm sure more will come out about Trump. Dudes a playboy who has been on Stern for years.

I wish we could have a debate or discussion about real issues, but the Romans want their bread and gladiator fights instead of real issues.

IMO, dems should let Trump win. Hillary is going to be walking into an economic and geopolitical pile of shit in the next 4 - 8 years. Everyone should remember how badly McCain got slaughtered running in Bush's shadow. Just wait til we have 12-16 years of Democrats in power and a economic downturn.

Oct 10, 2016

Agree 100%. I think Trump gets blasted while everything about Hillary is swept under the rug (including last night). It seems like the election is pretty much over unless Trump throws a big curveball at her that actually gets adequate coverage from the press.

Oct 10, 2016
BillBelichick37:

Agree 100%. I think Trump gets blasted while everything about Hillary is swept under the rug (including last night). It seems like the election is pretty much over unless Trump throws a big curveball at her that actually gets adequate coverage from the press.

It's sad. Like I can't even read Bloomberg or CNBC articles without bias.

I'd pay money for straight fact based news. No WSJ shit, no NYT, like actual data, research and conclusions. Al Jazeera is the best I have found so far. I don't agree with everything, but at least it's more fair and actual news.

I fucking hate fox news for their obvious conservative bias. Wish the feelings were shared by the other side and their puppet news sources.

Oct 11, 2016
BillBelichick37:

Agree 100%. I think Trump gets blasted while everything about Hillary is swept under the rug (including last night). It seems like the election is pretty much over unless ASSANGE throws a big curveball at her that actually gets adequate coverage from the press.

Fixed that for you, mate.

Oct 10, 2016

Oh, glad to know Buffet is releasing tax data as a way to hammer Trump. If we didn't know the "value" investor was nothing more than a big government crony, we do know.

Keep on keeping on, faux simple man Buffet.

Learn More

Side-by-side comparison of top modeling training courses + exclusive discount through WSO here.

Oct 10, 2016

Funny story about Buffett:

So it's well known that Warren Buffett eats a PBJ and a Coke everyday for lunch. I watched a special on Bloomberg TV about 3-4 years ago where they brought him into the studio for a segment and at the end had a blind taste test set up for him. It consisted of like 4 sodas unmarked including Coke, Diet Coke, Cherry Coke and Dr. Pepper, something along those lines.

I'm thinking, oh man he'll know the Coke heavy instantly, he's practically on a Coke drip at work everyday. This clown motherfucker stands there tastes them all and has absolutely no clue what anything is and actually says the Dr. Pepper is the Coke (probably the least similar of the group).

That is the moment I realized this old fuck is really on cruise control and just going through the motions everyday. Just shoveling a 6 year old's food choices into his mouth 24/7 and not even tasting it. Sad.

    • 8
Oct 10, 2016

He's beyond boring.

Oct 16, 2016
adapt or die:

Funny story about Buffett:

That is the moment I realized this old fuck is really on cruise control and just going through the motions everyday. Just shoveling a 6 year old's food choices into his mouth 24/7 and not even tasting it. Sad.

You just ripped Buffet a new one. +1

Oct 10, 2016

I am so done with this "the mainstream media" bullshit, any reporter/ journalist that had factual info that would be damning to HRC would publish it no questions, plain and simple. They are after profits and Pulitzers. They want a story and Trump constantly provides them with stories, plain and simple. Keep blaming the media for the failure of a campaign that is Trump 2016 though, it's easier than recognizing the dude is a clown that just can't help but give the media negative stuff to report on over and over again. Like the stuff with his taxes, if he'd released them long ago the story would be done, regardless of whether he paid nothing or not, but he keeps giving the story legs. Same goes with his "I didn't support the Iraq war" nonsense. Instead of simply saying "based on the information I had I supported it but my opponent was privy to confidential information that would've changed my point of view had I had that information" he continues to claim he didn't support it like people are too stupid to use Google.

    • 5
    • 2
Oct 10, 2016

What difference does it really make about his tax returns? I mean let's not act like HRC isn't one of the most money hungry politicians to ever live. They're both ripoff artists either way you look at it.

Oct 10, 2016

That's my point, it wouldn't have made much of a difference till he rejected years of political tradition and gave that bullshit line about IRS audits. He has personally made his tax returns a way bigger story than they ever should've been. He has done this with numerous stories because he is an awful political strategist.

Oct 10, 2016

I think Trump is pretty squarely out of the race unless Hillary's Parkinson's kicks back into gear. So far she seems to have the meds under control, and she is careful about making no public appearances for 3-4 day spans in order to rest up. It's very unusual for a leading Presidential candidate not to make at least daily appearances on the campaign trail with less than one month until the election, but I think that speaks to the severity of her neuro-degenerative disease. But let's face it, Trump is going to need what 40-45% of women to win and I just don't see him getting anywhere close to that given the media will continue to pump the mysogynist / rapey / racist image.

I'm just really worried about what happens when her Parkinson's gets worse. Like who the fuck is Tim Kaine? I'm 80% sure this dude is ex-CIA. Missionary... yeah my ass, I've never once heard the guy mention his faith or God...

    • 1
Oct 10, 2016

As I said earlier, I think it's over unless something extremely damning comes out about HRC that gets press. I don't really think she's going to win 2 terms given her health and flip-flop opinions on the key issues.

Oct 11, 2016
jankynoname:

I think Trump is pretty squarely out of the race unless Hillary's Parkinson's kicks back into gear. So far she seems to have the meds under control, and she is careful about making no public appearances for 3-4 day spans in order to rest up. It's very unusual for a leading Presidential candidate not to make at least daily appearances on the campaign trail with less than one month until the election, but I think that speaks to the severity of her neuro-degenerative disease. But let's face it, Trump is going to need what 40-45% of women to win and I just don't see him getting anywhere close to that given the media will continue to pump the mysogynist / rapey / racist image.

I'm just really worried about what happens when her Parkinson's gets worse. Like who the fuck is Tim Kaine? I'm 80% sure this dude is ex-CIA. Missionary... yeah my ass, I've never once heard the guy mention his faith or God...

The same reason this is being hidden is the same reason the media is trying to make it seem like Hilary is "way ahead in the polls"

It's all BS and a huge joke. It's so obvious everybody is against Trump. He's different than the rest, not a puppet and didn't take $24 million the past 2 years to give speeches worth their weight in bags of empty hammers...

There's no way on this planet anything Hilary says is worth 250K a pop...

Think about why all these corporations gave her that money, it wasn't for her speeches...

Politics is such a joke and so rigged it's not even funny.

How did Hilary get away with deleting over 30,000 classified emails when an investigation was launched?

It's a serious joke and I hope Hilary loses just because it's not what most politicians and the media wants.

Trump FTW....

    • 6
    • 2
Oct 13, 2016

Wait you're saying that everyone is just biased against Trump so it means that he is still in this thing because he's genuinely got something to offer..

But you're biased against Hillary. "There's no way on this planet anything Hilary says is worth 250K a pop" - why not? She's a former first lady/half of the president in the term of Bill Clinton, during the 90s when the world didn't look like a shit storm, and she is a former Secretary of State. Why wouldn't she charge up to the nose for all of these bankers that were dying to have her come speak?

And, do you really think she has 30,000 negative emails that would hurt her? There's probably one to a few being buried with the other 30,000 so she can always leave people like you confused about what could be in that bunch.

At the end of the day, I would of been for Trump if he wasn't so downright dumb as a person. The argument for him being smart is that "you don't get to make $1B by being dumb"... but he's also lost $1B too, in a single year. There's nothing about Trump that I like at this point, and I'm not going to keep believing the kid that says he's the shit.. just because he thinks he's the shit.

Oct 10, 2016

You are clueless. The news is about making money, not informing people. Fox is biased and so are all the rest.

When you have CNN blasting front page on their site a 10-15 year old misquote from Howard Stern, with no mention of Wiki leaks email release, there is bias.

Forget trump, it would be the same with Cruz, Jeb, Rubio, etc. There is clear bias.

It's shocking how you don't see this. It isn't even political.

Oct 10, 2016

I agree the new is about making money, guess what? A Clinton scandal would get many views/ clicks/ reads and would make a ton of money. A misquote? how so.

Oct 10, 2016

Clinton scandals don't get many views. Bill's rape accusers? Nope. Hillary's emails? Nope. Benghazi? Nope. etc. etc. People only have a short-term memory when it comes to politics, they don't give one shit about old stuff unless the media blasts it and tells them that it is important.

Oct 10, 2016

Trump didn't release his taxes because it was to be used against him. Same thing with Romney.

And no, Hillary scandals aren't the same. The press coddled this admin the same as they do with Hillary. It's blatant on what the ask, report, don't report, etc.

Oct 10, 2016

I don't really see what difference it makes if he actually releases them. Media will say he's a tax-evading bigot or a bourgeoisie asshole if his taxes are normal given his income. They see Clinton scandals as just not as sensationalizing as trump. It's ridiculous.

Oct 10, 2016
BillBelichick37:

I don't really see what difference it makes if he actually releases them. Media will say he's a tax-evading bigot or a bourgeoisie asshole if his taxes are normal given his income. They see Clinton scandals as just not as sensationalizing as trump. It's ridiculous.

Agree. I've posted before that a majority of trumps populist stances were echoed by Kerry and other Democrats before. When trump does it, they run negative stories 24/7.

Its a joke. Oh well, we will see what the polls say. Either way, whoever gets elected is in for a mess.

Oct 10, 2016

Clown like trump, as if hillary isn't promising the moon to get votes. As if Obama had or has a clue about basic economics. As if Bush didn't was a trillion on a shit war.

They're all morons.

Oct 10, 2016

To answer the question of the thread I think Trump won the debate but didn't have the knockout punch he needed.

Oct 10, 2016

In 3 months time, Trump will be crowing about how no one is more feminist than him because he got the US to elect its first female president.

    • 4
Oct 10, 2016

LMAO. "If it weren't for me Obama would not have released his birth certificate."

    • 1
Oct 10, 2016

Haha pretty sure he's already said that. Both candidates are complete jokes - as a republican, I have no problems saying the party has gone to shit. And crooked Hillary is well, awful.

Oct 10, 2016

I reacted to the "you'd be in jail" line like I just saw a 60yd bomb cap off a 4th quarter comeback. Fucking hilarious.

Oct 10, 2016

That was the highlight of the debate in my opinion. I wish these debates were like 3 hours of just jabs at each other.

Oct 10, 2016

yet you complain about people not caring about policy, smh.

    • 1
    • 1
Oct 11, 2016

Surprised no one has brought this up yet but I found it hilarious (literally cracked up) when Trump mentioned that if he's elected president, he will hire a special "agent/attorney" to thoroughly investigate Hillary on her email issue. I seriously laughed out loud.

    • 1
Oct 11, 2016
seville:

Surprised no one has brought this up yet but I found it hilarious (literally cracked up) when Trump mentioned that if he's elected president, he will hire a special "agent/attorney" to thoroughly investigate Hillary on her email issue. I seriously laughed out loud.

That was one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard a Presidential candidate say. It sounds very much like something a dictator of a Third World country would say. Seriously fucking scary.

    • 7
    • 6
Oct 11, 2016

Exactly. Very much a threat, it was hilarious.

Oct 10, 2016

Hillary is def taking a high variance line. 80% of the time she's POTUS, 20% she's in jail.

    • 1
Oct 11, 2016
DickFuld:

seville:Surprised no one has brought this up yet but I found it hilarious (literally cracked up) when Trump mentioned that if he's elected president, he will hire a special "agent/attorney" to thoroughly investigate Hillary on her email issue. I seriously laughed out loud.

That was one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard a Presidential candidate say. It sounds very much like something a dictator of a Third World country would say. Seriously fucking scary.

Gotta love you having 4 monkey shit for being a rational human being.

    • 6
Oct 10, 2016
DickFuld:

something a dictator of a Third World country would say. Seriously fucking scary

You going to cry bro?

    • 4
    • 4
Learn More

Side-by-side comparison of top modeling training courses + exclusive discount through WSO here.

Oct 10, 2016

It's pretty comical that CNN isn't even covering the new emails released today. Our major media is on par with China.

    • 2
    • 2
Oct 10, 2016

didn't hear about this, is there anything sensational in there?

Oct 10, 2016
BobTheBaker:

didn't hear about this,

^^my point exactly

    • 1
Oct 11, 2016

To me, it was clear Donald smoked Hilary in that debate, was happy to see him bring everything up, attack her and even acknowledge it's 3 against one and all the media is against him...

    • 2
    • 1
Oct 10, 2016

polls show Clinton people think Clinton won that debate (I have no idea either way as I was watching Sunday Night Football)

p.s. Outlets like Fox News and Breitbart are certainly not against him...

    • 2
    • 1
Oct 11, 2016

Trump supporters think Trump won and Clinton supporters think Clinton won. In the end, it's all about how the undecided voter FEELS about the debate since that's mostly what they're going to remember 30 days from now.
Clinton behaved more like a president than Trump did.

    • 1
    • 1
Oct 11, 2016

He smoked her by rambling like an idiot, avoiding questions, and having no actual information about anything he'd do as President? By no means am I pro-Hilary but how people are acting as if Donald Trump isn't extremely unfit to be President is scary.

    • 6
    • 1
Best Response
Oct 11, 2016

His demeanor and overall body language looked like an abuser, if that's the right term, that brings up the thoughts of abusive men at least that's the opinion of Mrs. ArcherVice and her circle of friends. Not to be confused with having a confident or even dominant personality, we're talking about someone looking to abuse their power on whomever they can, especially those he considers 'weaker' than himself.

In terms of everything else, once again, confirmation bias is running wild with his ardent supporters. You really are a bunch of morons, he hasn't actually offered any cognizant plan of substance that isn't outright ridiculous. You don't need to be a Democrat or 'responsible' (whatever that's supposed to mean) conservative to see that and think for yourself. I challenge anyone under a contrary belief to take any serious question regarding policy or issues facing the presidency and read his response out loud. If you can stumble through that without feeling like you're debasing yourself just by being open to his idiocy, my hat is off to you, so to speak.

Oct 12, 2016

Good to finally see some sanity in this thread.

    • 1
    • 2
Oct 12, 2016
ArcherVice:

His demeanor and overall body language looked like an abuser, if that's the right term, that brings up the thoughts of abusive men at least that's the opinion of Mrs. ArcherVice and her circle of friends. Not to be confused with having a confident or even dominant personality, we're talking about someone looking to abuse their power on whomever they can, especially those he considers 'weaker' than himself.

In terms of everything else, once again, confirmation bias is running wild with his ardent supporters. You really are a bunch of morons, he hasn't actually offered any cognizant plan of substance that isn't outright ridiculous. You don't need to be a Democrat or 'responsible' (whatever that's supposed to mean) conservative to see that and think for yourself. I challenge anyone under a contrary belief to take any serious question regarding policy or issues facing the presidency and read his response out loud. If you can stumble through that without feeling like you're debasing yourself just by being open to his idiocy, my hat is off to you, so to speak.

"You really are a bunch of morons" - glad to see the "if you disagree with me you are dumb" argument didn't end after third grade.

Oct 12, 2016
ArcherVice:

You really are a bunch of morons, he hasn't actually offered any cognizant plan of substance that isn't outright ridiculous.

Moron checking in. The fact this got even a single up-vote shows how shook the far left is. You start off by verifying that Trump is in fact a rapist because of your wife's friends analysis of his body language. Very important, thanks. Then you call Trump supporters a "bunch of morons" because he hasn't offered a cognizant plan. Lololol. Hillary is the same woman that is on record as saying it's necessary to have separate private and public opinions. You can learn more about her actual policy plans by looking at a hacker's data dump than you would by watching her speak. Meanwhile, while I'd agree Trump may leave some to be desired in terms of specific solutions, what is resoundingly clear is what he views as our problems and a 10 second search will show you he's held those same views for the better part of the last three decades.

It's worth remembering that everything that's going on right now was predicted from decades out. This includes everything from Brexit/ Trump, to the rise of movements like BLM, to the integration of things like ISDS into our trade agreements. This is the late stages of development of an industrialized, globalized, consumer based economy. Middle classes disappear as labor shifts around to their cheapest source. At some point only the upper tier of each country's society is able to trade with one another as their "labor" doesn't even make enough to utilize their own products and services. Then the people wake up to this economic disenfranchisement and decide to do something about it. At that point, democracy and globalization are no longer compatible so you set up super-national bodies capable of skirting all that democratic riff raff. And here we are, right on cue. Tbh I couldn't care less who wins, but I will say I find it amusing Hillary has an actual chance. Speaks volumes to the benefits of controlling the press. The unfortunate problem is that even if she does win, Trump's rhetoric will just be carried on by someone else in 4 years. It's as much of an economic certainty as the fact that "Trump" was going to happen was. Anyway, sorry for the irrelevant tangent. Back to the important things like our candidate's sex drives and tax returns.

    • 8
    • 1
Oct 10, 2016

never mind, I said I was done so I'll shut up.

Oct 11, 2016

You just responded to my post with a soundbite--you aren't even aware of the contents, just the emotional truth you've assigned it--to back up your negative partisanship.

Your entire response proves my point better than I ever could. Despite Trump's alleged marital rape and bragging about sexual assault, did I ever imply he was a rapist? No, I said he invoked the image of abusive men and abusive relationships in the eyes of women (anecdotally). So your blanket: "oh so NOW he's a rapist!?!?!" is childish and is a fabricated outlandish statement to undermine or distract from my contention, well done (?).

I'm not even going to bother with the incoherent rant at the end of your post, but it effectively proves my point that ardent Trump supporters use feelings of resentment, racial or otherwise, to justify their positions. As in, you're letting those emotions dictate your truths rather than doing the menial task of thinking for yourself.

Oct 12, 2016

All is not lost: we still have two more nominees in addition to Hilary and Trump. What we need to focus on is the issues that are most pressing to our country, to the world and to OUR FUTURE. We need to do more than just spend out energy throw shit at each other defending and supporting candidates.

How is my grammar? Drop me a note with any errors you see!

Oct 10, 2016

Classic thread: You're now a moron if you don't vote for a liberal. You should send your resume to MSNBC.

    • 2
    • 4
Oct 10, 2016

I suspect Hillary will win as the default candidate, being the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the majority of voters.

For her, the greatest thing about Trump is that he occupies the media's headspace and no one pays too much attention to her or her policies. Both are pretty uninspiring.

This article does a good job of explaining the perspective of a lot of the people who I suspect support Trump (although I'm an inner city elite and I like this article only because it plays to my pre-existing bias): http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-...
I see a lot of the support for Trump as being similar to a lot of the support for Brexit. There's a large segment of the population that has been left behind by globalisation and legitimately believes their pain and suffering has been completely ignored by the various groups that are at the steering wheel of government, the media, finance etc. I don't think either Brexit or Trump offer legitimate solutions to that pain, but the people who support Brexit/Trump are just glad someone is finally fucking listening to them and giving them some acknowledgment, rather than just dismissing them as dumb and/or racist.

Accordingly, I don't see Trump's base support being that rocked by Trump being a gropey, blathering idiot, any more than the Democratic base was rocked by Bill Clinton's repeated philandering/accusations of rape back in the 1990s. Trump's base supports him because he is not part of the broader establishment that has ignored him, just as much as Hillary will likely get a lot of votes from people who will vote for her because she is not Trump. For many, it's a choice of the lesser of two evils.

    • 4
Oct 10, 2016

I think you're correct regarding anxiety at globalism but you seem to confuse economic anxiety with racial anxiety. For example, Trump supporters are more likely to hold negative views on immigration overall but they'd rather the country accept an illegal swede than a legal Hispanic immigrant, which is to say the legality (or lack thereof) isn't the issue. White nationalism is on the rise here and in Europe and I think it is dangerous to ignore or deny it and claim some sort of economic reason.

Oct 10, 2016
BobTheBaker:

they'd rather the country accept an illegal swede than a legal Hispanic immigrant

You're making the assumption that the Swede is preferred because of race when that's not the case at all. The Swede would be preferred because that person has a much better chance of being educated and skilled whereas a Mexican immigrant does not. Stop race baiting. You're the biggest cry baby about racial issues on this board.

    • 2
Oct 19, 2016

+1 SSits. My thoughts almost to a T. Great perspective captured in that article.

Oct 13, 2016

Trump is moronic even though he brings some topics to the table that the genius political class has been overlooking over the past--since we've entered into the new millennium. He's a plain white guy who bought his way into the upper echelons. In The Art of the Deal, he talks about waking up early, not wanting to go to parties unless it's for something that he has respect for, negotiating contracts, etc. He's a plain business guy. In his 'Make America Great Again' theme book published late in 2015, he wants people to know that he's a conservative with a liberal agenda--education, supporting Christianity, progressive views on homosexuality--it's all there, he's pretty normal. This grab em by the pussy saga serves to let us know one thing, he's a Dos Equis kinda guy; if everyone else is doing it, why not I? With the Republican ran Congress, this might have led to some very different changes in legislation and rule making. Additionally, republicans would've got the 9th seat on the Supreme Court. Effectively, Repubs would've controlled the whole of Washington and had power to run everything happening there.

I don't know if people just want to see Trump move the country down a Republican path, but I'm sure he's blowing it. Maybe we needed that type of sweeping change in Washington, because without it, we'll continue watching Hillary and her party constantly at odds with Congress, trying to put this weirdo course in American history. But, I think having a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama as the president for 8 years scares people, and folks want things to go back to being normal, influencing a negative culture that is at odds with the American fabric and is just a bad place to start for a lot of people given America's history. They want the old timer white guy to take the White House while the other folks want the woman. The former is not going to happen and it's because Trump's got a big mouth. It's totally a missed opportunity, because he's not going to win, we'll get at least four years of whatever Hillary represents, and it's sad.

    • 1
    • 1
Oct 17, 2016

Trump is a clown with no policy or even a slight handle on the issues. And the worst thing is he doesnt even attempt to learn them. Honestly i have a better handle on foreign policy than him no jokes. Rubio was correct when he called him a con artist who would be selling watches in Manhattan if his dad didnt give him a small loan of several million dollars and then have his dad's inheritance bail him out when he was bankrupt in 90s

Which is a shame because Hillary Clinton is a corrupt piece of shit and the White House would have been there for the taking for the Republicans if it wasn't this dunce heading the ticket.

    • 1
    • 1
Oct 19, 2016

agreed!

    • 1
Oct 11, 2016
Comment
    • 1
    • 1
Oct 13, 2016
Oct 25, 2016
Comment