How much does your lifestyle cost?

Fairly Simple. How much do you spend to maintain your lifestyle? What changes would you make to your lifestyle in the future?

As for me annually
Housing: $20,000
Books: $1,000
Cars: Still drive a crappy car and don't have plan to upgrade, $2,000 on gas
Food: $3,000 goes to grocery, around $5,000 goes to restaurants
Vacation: None, work too much
Clothes: $3,000 on clothing, $5,000 is for watches
Expenses: $3,000

$42,000 all in, I am pretty happy with my lifestyle and don't think I would increase at least until I secure that $500,000 a year, that's when I would start thinking about having family and such.

Comments (102)

Jun 10, 2019

How much are you saving/investing?

My annual expenses look something like this as a college student.
Tuition: $8000 (about $4000 each semester)
Housing: $3900 (I live with 4 other guys)
Food: $3450
No car: $0
Clothes: $75
Netflix/Hulu/Prime $250

Total annual expenses. $15,675
I don't plan on buying a car if I can uber/fly/train to my destinations. When I have a net worth over $20 million I'll pick up a Model X if they are still around.
Not Employed
Average annual income: From personal investments = about $12,000

As my investments grow hopefully they can cover all my annual expenses so that I can start getting a net profit.
After college I assume my rent will increase to 14000 and tuition will be gone.

Jun 10, 2019

Most of my net worth is in long term equity investment, real estate and some small private businesses I own. I add in about $40,000 per year to my investment account (90% long term, 10% Trading). The more asset I buy, the higher my income is so I'm trying to get to a point that I wouldn't have to work for money anymore and just focus on running my own money.

Cash and cash equivalents: $138,311
Financial instruments and other inventory positions owned: $448,166

Jun 10, 2019

Noice. $5,000/yr on watches? At first that sounded pretty out there to me but then I remembered what I've spent on various hobbies thoughout the years...

I've found as I've gotten older that I'm less likely to splurge on something not necessary. It all just accumulates and becomes junk you don't use. Also, after moving a few times I'm less apt to want to move the same junk again. I'm 31, so by no means far off from most on this site but I'm definitely a different person than I was at 22-24 and I imagine that's similar for everyone.

Housing - $21,000
Car - $4,000 (mostly gas and insurance. I road trip a fair amount)
Food - $5,000 (idk - pretty much a shot in the dark here)
Vacation - about $2-4,000 per year depending.
Clothes - couple hundred, nothing extravagent here.
Expenses - Pretty much built these into other categories.

I do save quite a bit but it's more of the "set it and forget it" variety. I couldn't give an accurate amount without some digging.

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Jun 10, 2019

Enough to know to use "does."

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Jun 10, 2019

oof, thanks for pointing that out

Cash and cash equivalents: $138,311
Financial instruments and other inventory positions owned: $448,166

Jun 11, 2019

I remember being fresh out of college and even with a lot of fun expenditures I was all in at $60K. Well enjoy it now! Because I can promise you in 5-10 years when you are living in a city, married, and having your first kid it will all change... Have you heard of a babymoon or a push present?

Just the fixed charge coverage of my basic lifestyle (home mortgage/HOA, life / home / car insurance, subscriptions (e.g. 0 WSJ/AMZN Prime), tax accountant, charity (Bible says tithe 10%), annual credit card membership fees) easily runs >$100k.

Enjoy the DINK lifestyle while it lasts!

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Jun 11, 2019

^THIS!

Jun 12, 2019

You're in finance, go make more money lol. Especially if you're in the PE industry!

Jun 13, 2019

I make plenty of money and have no complaints. I just think WSO skews to guys that humble brag their annual expenditures are like $50k all in. It's total BS. Trying to prep ppl for the real world.

If people want to talk about being cost conscience then I highly recommend going to the Isaia suits, Eton shirts, and Barney's New York outlets at Woodbury Commons the day after Christmas. $5K - $10K spent there = $15 - $25K in NYC.

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Jun 11, 2019

Housing & utilities: ~$35,000

Misc. recurring expenses (gym, Netflix, Amazon Prime, cellphone): $6,000

Food: $6,000

Entertainment (drinks, movies, general going out excl. eating): $10,000

General shopping (clothes, household goods): $3,000

All in about $60k a year. Would probably be a lot lower if I didn't live in NYC. Plus imagine how much I'd save on taxes. Anybody know anyone hiring in Kansas?

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Jun 11, 2019

In terms of money: about PS40-50k a year.

In terms of health: everything.

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Jun 12, 2019

Cheesy, but I like it. +SB

Jun 11, 2019

Housing: $12-15k
Car: $2-3k of gas and insurance (bought car used for $5K a few years ago)
Cell: $2k
Vacation: $5k (2x 2-3k trips a year)
Partying/Food/Dates: $3k
Hobbies: $2-3k

$28K and this is CAD so $20K USD.. and I expense everything so I dont pay any taxes.

Jun 11, 2019
takenotes08:

Cell: $2k
Hobbies: $2-3k

You know you're Canadian when your annual cell phone bill = your annual hobby cost.

Jun 13, 2019

Yes, fuck Telus.

Jun 11, 2019

Close to 240k ttm but there are business reasons driving it up so IMO it's inflated. IE I moved to the US to run a portfolio company and had to pay like ~$6000 for immigration/e2 and incurred the typical moving fees. Doesn't help it was on two day notice either. My rent/living expenses are inflated too right now since I use a meal prep service and Uber everywhere while in the US vs cooking at home and using my car. Fly back home every 3 - 5 weeks, etc...

Jun 11, 2019

How much do you guys spend typically spend on a night out all in (ubers, drinks, drunk food, himilayan marching powder, etc)?

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Jun 11, 2019

Like $150 if not doing dinner, closer to $400 with dinner

Jun 11, 2019

100-300 usually. Depends on the type of night out. Some nights go under 100 and others easily break a grand.

Jun 11, 2019

My lifestyle alone is like $36k but the girlfriend brings it closer to $50k and it's absolutely worth it. Still saving money hand over fist so whatever.

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Jun 12, 2019
Banking Sucks Guys:

My lifestyle alone is like $36k but the girlfriend brings it closer to $50k and it's absolutely worth it. Still saving money hand over fist so whatever.

Your girlfriend is super, only $14k, I know many guys who spend 4-5 times more on their girls

Jun 12, 2019

She is a very normal person! All that money is really just the fact that I do more stuff than I would if I was single along with me paying her way on a vacation here and there.

Jun 11, 2019

$42k for both me and my wife- single income right now.

$12k housing
$4k electric/cell/internet
$8k for car ($400/mo payments, $1.2k gas, $1.5k insurance, some misc)
$3.5k student loans
$4.5k groceries
$3k vacations
$6k restaurants/entertainment/shopping/misc

We save close to 30% of after-tax income, and as income increases we'll upgrade our housing slightly (to about $16k) but will save the rest. We don't plan on any major lifestyle upgrade for a long while. Not wielding a huge IB income, but am living in a low COL metro.

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Jun 11, 2019

Where are you living for 1k/month.....

Jun 11, 2019

Major southern metro- Phoenix/DFW/ATL

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Jun 11, 2019

You don't need to make $500k to start a family dude...

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Jun 12, 2019

Personally I would want a pretty big buffer just in-case the kid has special healthcare needs. Good friend ran into an issue with one of his kids and is spending like 60k+ a year in extra healthcare costs.

Jun 12, 2019

You can test the fetus for a myriad of congenital conditions now. Test can't be more than a few hundred, much better than 60k a year.

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Jun 12, 2019

Had the same thought. With a goal like that, he may never have a family lol.

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Jun 14, 2019

10000%

Jun 11, 2019

Contingency 20%

Jun 11, 2019

Housing (mortgage, HOA, utilities, etc.) - $3,942
Car (payment, gas, etc.) - ~$760
Phone - $115
Food & 'misc' - all over the place, as low as $600 to as high as $3K, depending on extracurricular.
So total anywhere from $5,400/month ($65k/yr) to $7,800/mo (~$95K/yr).

I'm actually pretty happy with where I'm at since I live in a very high COL area. I have a base salary but my total comp varies pretty heavily depending on deal flow, so some years I've saved 70%+ of total income and others I've only saved like 10-15%. Really just depends.

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Jun 11, 2019

monthly
Housing - $1700
Travel -$700 (average)
restaurants - $300
groceries - $300
car insurance - $60
gas - $200
misc./hobbies (skiing)/netflix - $500

live in an extreme cost of living city so i'm pretty happy with this mix. i never "go out" but do end up spending quite a bit on gas and gear for hobbies.

Jun 13, 2019

Are you a car guy or do you ride at all?

Jun 14, 2019

Nope, just drive an old prius to the mountains lol

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Jun 11, 2019

I don't know, but I spend more on insurance premiums than some of you do for everything combined. I think my out of pocket is probably $1,500 per month for health insurance alone (I'd have to check). Plus probably $6k for term life insurance a year and $5k a year for disability, cars, home, and umbrella.

How are some of you saying $3k per year in food? I probably spend $500 - 1k per month in just booze. I pull out $300 in cash every week and blow it mostly on lunch and drinks and crap, plus I still use my card for a lot of things.

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Jun 11, 2019

After looking at my monthly balances over the course of about 6 months.
I spend on average $8.33 on food per day.
(Also a college student; so I am living like I'm in a third world country)

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Jun 13, 2019

Last sentence was so brutal I physically cringed

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Jun 12, 2019

Annual:

Housing: $11,500 (Rent and Utilities)
Car: $1,750 of gas, insurance and maintenance
Cell: $1,200
Vacation: $1,200 (I don't vacation much, I need to change this)
Food. Household Items, Lunches: $5,500
Gym, Massage (The legit kind), Workout products: $3,700
Student Loans: $12,000

Total: $35,650

I've saved and invested the rest. (Which is over the above amount)

Jun 12, 2019

Wife and 3 kids, so very different scenario than most on here. Also have the luxury of not really having/needing a budget, so this is all VERY high level. Also, we've moved to a Tier 3 city in the last year which has helped dramatically.

Housing: ~$3k/month with utilities
Car/insurance: ~$300/month (we own 2 newer model cars with no payments and don't drive that far anymore)
Groceries: $500/month
Restaurants: $400/month
Gym/Other Entertainment: $250/month
Daycare: ~$1,500/month (was over $3k/month last year)
Other Crap: $1000/month
Vacations: $5k/year (fuck you Disney)
Total Annual: ~$85-90k

twitter: @CorpFin_Guy

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Jun 12, 2019

Wow this is such a low budget with 3 kids and wife. CFO well deserved.

Jun 12, 2019

I don't really think so, we live VERY comfortably. The one big thing is that we actually rarely go out on dates right now (I don't really recommend that, but with 3 crazy boys in a new city it is what it is). So our Friday night is $40 at Panera or local sports bar or $25 pizza instead of $100 for my wife and I. Neither of us totally abstain from drinking, but at this point in our lives we RARELY drink so that certainly saves quite a bit.

Looking at my estimates above I probably actually spend a little bit more on Groceries and Restaurants, but I definitely spend less on housing.

Other than drinks and car payment, I'm not even really sure what else someone would spend on. The nice thing about where we live is that I have a nice house in a great family neighborhood (pool, splash pad, park, etc..) and it really probably costs me closer to $2500/month with taxes, utilities, etc.. That obviously doesn't happen everywhere.

twitter: @CorpFin_Guy

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Jun 12, 2019

My monthly bills are about $2300-2500 all in.

So as long as I am making $3500+ after taxes im good #sales

I drink/travel/save/invest the rest. Need to get better at the last two.

Single, late 20s, no gf, no kids, NE city (Boston/Philly/DC/NoVa)

Jun 12, 2019

This is based on 2018 actuals (single, had a gf most of the year, NYC, early 30s)

Rent: $34k

Food: $13k (I don't really cook, so this is all pickup/order in)

Discretionary - this encompasses bars, restaurants, Amazon orders, etc: $16,500

Vacations/Weddings/Bach Parties: $19k - I'm in the midst of an avalanche of weddings

Clothes/Other semi-durable goods: $2k

Recurring expenses (NYTimes, Prime, Hulu, cable): $1500

Gym: $2700

Phone: $1700

Dry Cleaning/Laundry: $1800

Electric: $1k

Misc: $1200

Total: ~$95k

Jun 14, 2019

if you had to cut back on one of these line items, what would go first?

Jun 17, 2019

Vacations and Discretionary. A lot of discretionary is dates and nice dinners which I could easily cut back on. Vacations I would just do cheaper trips - instead of a week in Capri maybe a week in Jamaica. If I cut back on dates & dinners out I could also cut back on food, since I would have more time/opportunity to cook.

Jun 12, 2019

I was thinking this is fairly reasonable until I saw watches.

Jun 12, 2019

Good lord writing this makes me hate Manhattan... Early 30's, live downtown, luxury building, yes I have a car which is one of my dumber purchases but whatever. Below is monthly, ballpark...

Rent: 4500

Food/Drinks: 1500

Car/Gas/Parking/Insurance: 1000

Cable/Internet/Peloton/Cell/Etc: 400

Ubers: 500

Misc Shopping: 500

8400/month more or less. Add in 3k for my golf membership and probably 15k for vacations and other stuff I am forgetting. About $118k per year, and I think that is likely low.

Jun 12, 2019

I also live in Manhattan and this isn't crazy. One question - why a car? Not owning one is one of the only "savings" of living in NYC. Also, $500 on ubers is a ton.

Jun 12, 2019

I like driving and bought (leased) one for myself as a 30th birthday present... don't ask, there is really no way to rationalize it. And you're right $500 a month is probably high now that I actually think about it, but somehow I always end up being the guy that orders the XL in the rain on Saturday nights when I go out with groups... that's my own issue though.

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Jun 12, 2019
Billy Ray Valentine:

Good lord writing this makes me hate Manhattan... Early 30's, live downtown, luxury building, yes I have a car which is one of my dumber purchases but whatever. Below is monthly, ballpark...

Rent: 4500

Food/Drinks: 1500

Car/Gas/Parking/Insurance: 1000

Cable/Internet/Peloton/Cell/Etc: 400

Ubers: 500

Misc Shopping: 500

8400/month more or less. Add in 3k for my golf membership and probably 15k for vacations and other stuff I am forgetting. About $118k per year, and I think that is likely low.

I'd recon I am in a similar ballpark and I would think we are getting away with a pretty cheap lifestyle, all things cosidered.

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Jun 17, 2019

What course are you a member at? 3k isn't bad if it's somewhat close to the city and rounds don't take 5+ hours

Jun 12, 2019

Tier 1 City

Fixed (rent, utilities, phone, car insurance, etc): 2,250, 27k
Staples (food, gas, etc): 750, 9k
Stuff (clothes, random crap): 425, 5.1k
Fun (bars, restaurants, sports, concerts, etc): 950, 11.4k
Travel: 750, 9k
Weddings (gifts, hotel, travel): 150, 1.8k - some years has been as much as 5k

Total: 5,275 a month, 63k a year

Save the rest and bank my bonuses.

For younger folks, I'd say save as much as possible in the early years. One you don't know how long you'll stay in fiance, ie high earnings, and second your wealth will compound so much faster if you have a lot saved young to invest and/or buy a house. Can always blow it out later but getting a couple hundred thousand saved early in your career cycle is the smart way to do it.

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Jun 12, 2019

Live in AZ right now, so lower cost of living. Love the sunshine. Annual budget:

  • Housing/Utilities: 16k
  • Food/Drinks: 14k
  • 401k: 15k ("savings" but won't touch for 4 decades? so I count this as an expense for now)
  • Car: 3k (gas/insurance) -> Drive a 2003 Sequoia bby. 250k miles and counting
  • Gifts: 2k
  • Side Biz: 2k (hoping to go FT eventually, earns 30x multiplier but takes a ton of time)
  • Cell: 1k

Save (not counting 401k) like 1k a month. Possibly more. So at least 12k cash annually

Want to get into real estate or other investments in the future, so contemplating a duplex or triplex when I move back to the midwest (home) to be near family.

Jun 12, 2019

Guess I've always been PE oriented. Back in college, I used credit cards to do an LBO of my lifestyle. Graduated, grew top-line revenue, paid down debt, and made a successful exit. Almost debt free today, except for some student loans.

Mezz debt would've been cheaper, but at least I still have some chachkies from back in the day.

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Jun 14, 2019

+SB, this one deserves more bananas.

Jun 12, 2019

Monthly budget roughly for me/wife/toddler:
* 8k mortgage + home insurance + property tax
* 2k daycare / child care
* 1k health insurance
* 1k necessary bills (phone, other insurance, utilities)
* 0.5k food
* 0.5k other life expenses = entertainment, misc purchases

= about $13k / month or conservatively ~$160k+ a year. (of which $100k is housing)

Just for fun, in my 20's living abroad DINK:
* 0.5k rent
* 0k child costs
* 0k health insurance yolo / provided by company
* 0.1k necessary bills (phone, other insurance, utilities)
* 0.2k food
* 0.6k other life expenses = entertainment, misc purchases
* 1k travel

= $.4k / month or $16.8k / year (like 20% of my current costs)

Jun 13, 2019

Does your wife make a comparable income to you? Housing is crazy. And groceries seem low plus no fun (restaurants, dates, etc) budget?

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Jun 13, 2019

Wife makes less but low six figures. Housing cost is high but we have quite a bit of cash saved up and invested. I'm thinking about taking most of that and paying down a large chunk of the loan which would get us to ~4,500 a month in housing cost rather than 8k. I'm not confident in investment returns going forward to outpace after taxes what we would be guaranteed to save in interest expense, especially now that in CA a large part of this interest expense is no longer tax deductible.

Groceries are low because of Costco and comped meals. Not a lot of time for fun but I do a lot of cheap and free things with the family such as the zoo (free), museums (free), beach (free) etc.

Jun 13, 2019

Monthly:

Rent + rent insurance: $1320
Gym: $140
Groceries: $400
Cable + Electric + Phone: $150
Probably one domestic trip a month: $500 a month average?
Eating out (try to keep this close to 0): $200
Coffee (try to keep this close to 0): $15
Ubers: $150

Goal is to have a credit card payment around 1.5k each month.
No car and commute is paid for by my employer.
I don't buy much clothing and accesories.

Jun 14, 2019

Living in Honolulu
-Have GF and she lives with me
-Work in CRE

Monthly
Rent: $2250 - (I pay below market rent. My landlord/friend got this 2b/2b condo as an 18th birthday present. I sublease the other room for $1k a month)
Cable TV/Internet 300GB: $90
Electricity: $150 - $200
Water: $80-$90
Groceries: $400 - $600
Car/Insurance/Maint: $550-$650
Gas: $30 - $50 (I walk to work so gas usage is low)
Parking: $150
Dining/Nightlife: $400 - $600
Cell Phone: $70
Health Care: $52.62 - (This is the most expensive healthcare plan offered, it could be less)
Dental: $19.38
Emergency Fund: $500
Subscriptions: $70-$90
GYM: $40.89

Annual
Vacations: $12k-$18k - it varies
Clothing: $1k-$2k

This isn't an entire list of my monthly costs. I could cut back on quite a few things (Dining/Nightlife/Clothing), but fuck it you only live once.

Jun 14, 2019

That's a hell of a vacation expense. You would think living in Hawaii you could just do staycations.

Of course, you probably get tired of the same scenery all the time.

Jun 14, 2019

Worst part is I'm pretty sure I'm lowballing the amount.

Regarding Staycations: If I visit one of the other islands does it still count as a staycation?
Sad thing is that if you add up all the expenses of visiting Maui or Kauai, it's still sometimes cheaper to take a trip to Asia

Jun 14, 2019

Post-tax annual income: ~$44,500

Rent/Utilities: $15,500
Food/Dining: $6,000
Transportation: $2,000
Clothing: $1,000
Misc: $2,000
Loans: $12,000

Leftover for savings/investment: ~$6,000

Damn some of y'all are absolutely crushing it.

Jun 14, 2019

Housing: $22,000 (mortgage, prop taxes, insurance)
Food: $12,000
Clothing: $2,000
Vacation: $2,000
Future Baby (due Oct): Prob a total of $5,000 for nursery and all that.
Car: $4,000 (loan payment)
Leisure: $3,000

We save close to $50,000/year, including retirement. We live in Central Texas.

Jun 14, 2019

Early 30s, Greenpoint (Brooklyn), $75k total

  • Groceries: $6,000
  • Coffee: $2,400 (^1)
  • Restaurants: $14,400
  • Rent: $21,600 (^2)
  • Utilities: $2,400
  • Health insurance: $7,200 (^3)
  • Metrocard + Ubers: $3,000
  • Vacations: $6,000 (^4)
  • Clothing: $6,000
  • Books, technology: $2,400
  • Gym (+ alumni club): $2,500

Footnotes

  1. I'm a lightweight drinker, so espresso is my real vice and I'm not trying to curb it
  2. This is well below market for my area; you'll notice food exceeds my rent
  3. Have to pay for my own because I'm an independent contractor
  4. I've found, if you have a SO that a nice little weekend trip once a month is more effective than blowout-style trips twice a year
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Jun 19, 2019

what kind of place did you get for that rent?

Jun 19, 2019

Large railroad, two flights up, in front of a park. September will mark 8 years there and I know I pay more than most people in the area.

Jun 17, 2019

man i used to think i lived a pretty frugally. pls note i don't indulge in the whole, second home, nanny, hamptons, cars, etc and we do minimal shopping.

Per year:

  • 90k apt
  • 50k Kids school (summer camp)
  • 25k eating out
  • 10k groceries
  • 15k travel
  • 7k holiday gifts
  • 15k misc (cable, phone, shopping, etc)
  • 40k support parents
  • 3k cleaning lady

so ~255k a year. our spending skews toward food and travel over material goods.

Jun 20, 2019

I take it your job tag needs updating with a lifestyle like that...

Jun 20, 2019

In a major city, not in the US or Europe. In USD:
-Accommodation: 14,200
-Groceries: 5,400 (To be fair, I get fancy organic brands of everything, and I meal prep etc)
-Dining: About 1000
-Public transport: 1150
-Haircuts: 400 (every fortnight)
-Jujitsu: 2000
-Gym: 600
-Phone 160
-Clothes: About 400

So all up about $25k. I'm in my mid 20s, single. Rent where I live is a shit tonne more than the US generally, and relative to income probably higher than NYC even. Saving about 35-40%, which looks good but the amount is still nominally small.

Jun 24, 2019
hyperxenophiliac:

In a major city, not in the US or Europe. In USD:
-Accommodation: 14,200
-Groceries: 5,400 (To be fair, I get fancy organic brands of everything, and I meal prep etc)
-Dining: About 1000
-Public transport: 1150
-Haircuts: 400 (every fortnight)
-Jujitsu: 2000
-Gym: 600
-Phone 160
-Clothes: About 400

So all up about $25k. I'm in my mid 20s, single. Rent where I live is a shit tonne more than the US generally, and relative to income probably higher than NYC even. Saving about 35-40%, which looks good but the amount is still nominally small.

You spend $2000 on Jiu-Jitsu and can't even spell the name of what you're training for - bravo.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jun 21, 2019

In SoCal

Housing/Utilities: $1,100
Gas / Car Insurance: $400
Gym: $200
Travel: $500
Entertainment/Nightlife: $1,000
Food: $600-$800
Cell Phone: $60

Jun 21, 2019

Where the duck in socal do you live?

Jun 22, 2019

I have roommates

Jun 22, 2019

Mid-Atlantic, I spend around ~$40k a year. I used to track my spending more closely, but I live so far within my means that I've stopped keeping track. I just have rent/tithing/etc. on auto-pilot every two weeks, and focus more on earning more instead of spending less. I don't really have any expensive hobbies or interests (other than a wife!) so lifestyle creep hasn't effected me too much.

Jun 24, 2019

Rent: $1950
Food: $3000+++

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 24, 2019

I burn an ungodly amount of calories though, so food costs add up quickly. 7,773 on Saturday, about 5,550 yesterday and probably 8,000 today. I'm eating like I am a family of six. Its difficult in every aspect of the fact for me to consume enough calories.

I really really need a food sponsor. I'd take McDonalds or Wal-Mart - anybody. Circle K would be sick too actually for bike stops.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 24, 2019
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"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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