Most interviews in a row without receiving an offer?

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I'm 0/10 can anyone beat me?

And why is it suggested that my speech and behavior are inadequate upon learning that I have been rejected so many times in a row? What if society is the problem?

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Feb 7, 2019

Society isn't the problem. Also, is this 0/10 from superdays or from hirevues? Ask for feedback after the rejections so you can improve too.

Feb 7, 2019
  • 2-3 hirevues rejected
  • phone screen passed then final round rejected
  • in person first round passed then final round reiected
  • in person first round rejected
  • 6 phone screens rejected

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Feb 18, 2019

If this is the criteria, I've been rejected around 50 times (not exaggerating). Between IB, PE, and Real Estate Finance SA and FT applications, I've applied to somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 positions. It's just tough out there. Admittingly, I bombed my first few IB SA interviews on technicals because I didn't know what I didn't know. After the learning curve, it just came down to there was a better candidate out there. I've also experienced rejections due to poor timing and others for being "overqualified," whatever that means. Just keep your head up and keep refining yourself. I'm on my 5th internship as a May 19' undergrad and have had several years experience from the US Navy and Pharmaceuticals and still don't technically have a FT offer yet, though I am working 2 internships at the moment that have expressed interest in converting to FT. Just keep doing things to make yourself more marketable and network hard.

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Feb 7, 2019

I've only applied to 130 I realize that I need to get my numbers up after reading the replies here

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Feb 22, 2019

What would you say you wish you prepared for better for interviews? What type of technicals are they looking for for an internship? About to do my first few rounds.

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Feb 7, 2019

Society cant be the problem, because society sets the rules of the game. You need to adapt. Like the other guy says, ask for feedback.

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Feb 7, 2019

The game is rigged

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Feb 8, 2019

In some aspects, but complaining isn't going to get the OP anywhere. Merit still carries a lot of weight in this world and the only thing we can do is improve on the things within our control.

Feb 7, 2019

You have to be able to tango regardless of how attractive you are. What happens when you only have one leg?

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Feb 8, 2019

You only need to buy one shoe

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Feb 20, 2019

That's a yes from me.

Feb 7, 2019

I would say its a combination of both. Did you bother to ask for feedback?

During the interviews try to be more aware of the interviewers body language, their tone, what they say, and their responses to your questions. Of course, you should also be doing the same for yourself.

Think back to your most recent interview what did you think were 5 weak points?

Feb 7, 2019

I thought that the common advice was to not ask for feedback. I generally know what my weaknesses are

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Feb 7, 2019

Just asking if you asked. Personally, I don't ask -- because they won't give it and generally also know my weaknesses.

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Feb 7, 2019

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Feb 7, 2019

bump

Feb 7, 2019

You are in the same boat as I am it seems... Can you beat 0/10?

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Feb 8, 2019

Just going to count in-person interviews, phone interviews are w/e... 3

Feb 8, 2019

I was 0/40 at some point.

Feb 7, 2019

Nice, you win

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Feb 8, 2019

Just to clarify: interviews at the same company before not getting an offer? Or from various companies?

Same company: 6 interviews, lack of experience dinged me (just out of UG)

Different companies: TBD.. trying to break into CRE

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Feb 7, 2019

That's so dumb. Why would they waste everybody's time just to ding you for lack of experience.

Feb 8, 2019

I was in the running. Another person came in and had more experience and took the spot. I was bummed but I understand it. Gotta keep plugging away

Feb 8, 2019

I think your post history is what leads me to believe its your speech and behavior.

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Feb 7, 2019

I'm not saying that I'm not strange. What I mean to say is that at this point, my inability to come across as normal makes me feel a sense of despair. And I am beginning to question why the system is designed like this - why are we encouraged to put on a mask?

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Feb 8, 2019

Nearly impossible to find a job that isnt client-facing or requiring close teamwork. Most jobs don't really require complex hard skills. It's all the soft shit that is most important, and that is why you have to "put on a mask". Likable & smart > unlikable genius

What is hard in finance is telling a story with numbers and slides, managing ridiculous client executive's expectations, working until midnight for weeks on end, closing deals/sales, etc.

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Feb 19, 2019

Totally agree here. The MD who hired me for my first BB job said, "I can teach someone to be a banker, I can't teach them to be likable."

Feb 19, 2019

A lot of areas where you can't necessarily 'be yourself' to your truest extent require a degree of skill in reading a room/person. A meeting, a client dinner, a social team outing,,, an interview. Don't think of it as 'wearing a mask,' but rather as being a social chameleon in a way. You have to bend your personality to match a situation or person, not necessarily create a false persona. So when it comes to interviews, you need to read the energy of the interviewer and anticipate what they're looking for in an answer, but also how they'll react to said answer. This requires practice as you need to take this into account very quickly as you answer, so have someone go through the most common questions with you and build a core set of strong answers that will be received well, and practice them a lot. And then tweak those answers to sound like you just thought of it on the spot, so it sounds natural. I can't say I've read it, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the book "How to win friends and influence people" may benefit you. Good luck! Sit outside the barbershop long enough and you're bound to get a haircut

Feb 8, 2019

I have a buddy who is probably 0/50. Guy just graduated and has zero work experience. Can't say I'm very surprised

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Feb 8, 2019

Currently a senior in college. All things considered (pre-interview assessments, Hirevues, phone interviews, in-person)... 0/18

Feels pretty shitty.

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Feb 8, 2019

It's just a numbers game. Most was like 0/8 for me, so I prepped up, talked slower, sounded more confidence, brushed up on my technical. I mean it was relentless when I got laid off, I was up from 6am to 1am applying, reading, brushing up my resume, playing mock interviews by myself. I lost a lot of friends and family because I always made work first but I rather be lonely than poor... Atleast for now.

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Feb 8, 2019

It only takes 1. I was probably 1 for 30 or something like that.

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Feb 19, 2019

Thanks for sharing that. Been through the same kind of ratios myself. Do you have any advice on coping? (On the practical side, all anyone can do is play the numbers game by keeping up the pipeline of applications/networking while making sure they get feedback and honing their interview skills.)

If you guys check out a Schwarzman - Stanford interview on Youtube, he talks about receiving a ton of rejections and says make sure you have a good therapist.

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Feb 8, 2019

Going through FT, I'm about 0 for 12 interviews, 8 of them I managed to get to the final round for. All FO positions, I've gotten good feedback during some interviews but no one seems to respond when I ask for it via email so Im not sure what i'm doing wrong besides my own self-evaluation and I manage to fix that usually too. Any advice here?

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Feb 9, 2019

I'm experienced (c6 years) and I got stuck in a rather dead end job. I was looking for several months but was also extremely picky with roles and companies. Before I finally landed an offer, I reckon I had gone to around 15-20 interviews/modelling tests.

Basically you have to keep on pushing, can't let rejections get you down as there will be rejections and there will be many of them.

Feb 11, 2019

I won't bother counting HireVues and Phone Screens. Those are simply to many to keep up with. Just stick to in-person interviews. That's easier to count for sure.

thots and prayers

Feb 11, 2019

It's fine to complain for a bit, but pick yourself up and keep pushing forward. If you don't help yourself, nobody will.

I was 0/20 at some point (for a combination of EBs/BBs/PEs/HFs), and at that point I already had 2 summers of BB IBD and BB ER on my resume. If it makes you feel any better... I also went to HYP undergrad and had a 3.7+ GPA.

As with most matters in life, sometimes it's just luck (or not being in the right place and right time). That's the one factor you can't change.

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Feb 11, 2019

Too many to count.

You need to approach the process with a better mentality. Every failed interview is a chance to learn something. Whether thats something you did wrong, something someone else did right, or even just a unique question you hadn't anticipated.

As others have said, it's a numbers game. This isn't college admission, a lot of the time the process doesn't make sense. Just keep pounding the pavement.

"It gets easier. Every day it gets a little easier. But you gotta do it every day - that's the hard part"

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Feb 19, 2019

#UnexpectedBojack

Feb 11, 2019

3.5 years experience and been on the new job hunt for a year now.

Probably like 0-20. Turned down two offers last year and since then have not had any. Exactly 0-4 for getting to final interview and not getting offer.

It's a tough and frustrating road. Just gotta keep pushing and not get discouraged. If you're 1-300 you still ended up successful.

Feb 11, 2019

I probably went 0-15 in on-campus first rounds and superdays before landing my FT offer senior year, this with two good summer internships in IBD and an MBS trading desk. And what's funny is that after I got that first offer, I got two more within a week.

Sometimes it's just luck. You very well may have been the best candidate that day with better experience... and then the guy who got offered was a director's nephew. But it's a numbers game. You're bound to break in somewhere as you keep putting in applications and interviewing. Keep your head up.

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Feb 21, 2019

While I was in school I ran into the same thing. Struck out in probably 6-8 spots and everything came screeching to a halt, then all of the sudden had the problem of having to choose between 3...everything happens at once it seems.

Feb 11, 2019

We're counting phone screens? What about informational interviews? I probably had 100+ phone calls, dozens of in-person meetings, ~10 superdays, and 2 offers. This is over a couple year span between IB and private equity recruiting

Feb 8, 2019

Just want to say that this thread has really helped me out. I posted above about my current FT experience and lately it has been fairly difficult to keep my head up. Seeing that a bunch of people have gone through the same struggle is certainly uplifting.

Big thanks to OP and the commenters above me.

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Feb 18, 2019

I was 0/60ish for about a couple months out of school while working for family business, then I did some introspection on my resume and interview skills, still 0 for jobs I actually wanted but then got about 2 offers a week on crappier jobs.

For one boutique ended up telling one manager on a final round that I declined another offer while I drove over. Got the offer that day and then got a 35% higher offer from a global firm the following week.

Stop making excuses and just persevere...if you can't adapt and face hardship then you are going to have a miserable life.

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Feb 19, 2019

3/3, Be like me, choose your battles wisely. only interview for jobs you know you will get. -McDonalds Crew Member

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Feb 19, 2019

For one position, I went through five rounds before they dinged me. First two were a panel of associates and associate directors. Third round was with four directors. Fourth round was with the team's MD and another director. Last round was a case study. I don't think I did particularly bad on the case, but they should have just given it from the beginning so they could interview people with advanced technicals only.

Feb 19, 2019

Keep your chin up! I can definitely feel your pain. For 2019 SA recruiting I went through... probably 19 processes (not including ones I did not get an interview for), 5 of which became supers, and only clinched offers on the last two.

At the end of the day, its a marathon. Every rejection makes you a relatively stronger candidates (less people in the pool, and you get more experience interviewing).

The biggest piece of advice I can give, and this will sound cheesy, in addition to prepping and practicing as much as possible, is to have a support network. It gets stressful, depressing, and can feel like nothing works. You may start doubting this whole endeavor. Whether its a SO, having a buddy who's in the trenches with you also recruiting, or a good group of supportive friends who aren't in finance, all of these can stop mental fatigue/burnout, which is critical.

Feb 19, 2019

I had a longer streak during SA recruiting (2/2 FT) and if you think that society is the problem, you are most definitely the problem. I applaud the interviewers for having good enough reads to select out someone who would ever ask such a ridiculous question, let alone in a rhetorical manner.

I come from down in the Valley, where Mr. when you're young, they bring you up to do like your daddy done.

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Feb 7, 2019

Baaaa... baaaaa... baa... baaaaa... baaa... baa

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Feb 7, 2019

That is what a sheep sounds like

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Feb 19, 2019

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just google it...you're welcome

Feb 19, 2019

Some things to keep in mind that might cheer you up:
- How many of the places that rejected you would you have actually liked to work at? A fair number of rejections can actually be dodged bullets.
- Having some rejections is a good sign that you're pushing yourself
- Perseverance/grit and handling rejections are important skills. Working in the industry, you'll see that deals go busto at all stages and you have to just keep on pushing.
- Would love to hear other folks points to add to this list

Feb 19, 2019

I was around 1/10 for SA and currently 0/15 for FT. But through the many rejections, I was able to improve my interview/communication skills and gain a better understanding of my interests and strengths.

It can definitely feel unfair but think: is it more likely that society is the problem or that you just need to improve? Also think which do you more likely have the ability to influence? This is best summarized by a quote from Marcus Aurelius: "You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."

Feb 7, 2019

A job interview is an outside event, so you have no power over it according to the wise Marcus Aurelius, right? And it is ironic that you say that your communication skills have gotten better but your conversion rate is now worse than it was for SA. Though I do feel your pain, as we may very well have similar difficulties, and hope that you are able to land something.

It is more likely that society is the problem. Let's not forget that this is the same society where there were once slaves, and the same society where immigrants once could not find employment upon arrival in America because they were immigrants. Now we are going to pretend like everything is rosy eh?

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Feb 20, 2019

Keep on pushing. Tbh this is not too much.

Before landing my internship at a BB in London I literally applied to over 100 places, and after final rounds at MS and GS finally got my offer from other BB.

As other monkeys said do ask for feedback and do as many mock interviews as possible with peers that have landed IB internships. Also networking is absolutely key, specially in order to make it to the AC. Be sure that if you can manage to get to 4-5 AC you'll eventually get an offer.

Aside from this, work on your CV. I personally landed 4 internships (PE included) before my first offer at a non-BB IB in London. After this, with 5 internships in my back (incl. PE and IB) I finally received an offer from a BB.

And btw society is not the problem. Getting an IB internship is hard as fuck, so you have to work your ass off in order to make it. There is no middle ground.

Feb 7, 2019

I'm not talking specifically about IB. Most of the people on here would scoff at the retail banking internship that I was rejected from after what should have been a simple phone screen. At this point, I feel dejected.

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Feb 7, 2019

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Feb 7, 2019

If you were interviewing him and he gave you good answers you'd reject him because he sounds weird

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Feb 20, 2019

If you haven't given up then you haven't lost the war, just a battle or 3.

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Feb 20, 2019

I was probably about 0 for 40 before I finally landed an offer. Right after I received that first offer I got another offer. Being 0/10 could stem from circumstances outside your control (candidates with connections, etc.). After about 25 interviews I realized I had to be doing something wrong. Each interview after I tried to be outwardly cocky to sell myself, and that's how I finally closed. I wouldn't worry just yet, but if you keep getting rejected then I'd think long and hard about what you're doing wrong and how you will fix it.

Feb 20, 2019

it be like that sometimes

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