Wharton ($) Vs Kellogg ($$)
I have a dilemma as I have an offer from two schools - Wharton and Kellogg. Wharton is offering 20% aid while Kellogg is offering 65% aid. Female currently am in MBB and have assured rehiring so that I have no problems of placement post MBA.
Question is which should I choose?
Well if you want to return to MBB I would go to Kellogg. I have no idea how much you value money and how much yo have set aside and on the other side how much you value prestige of going to Wharton vs. Kellogg... If you want to switch from MBB to PE or something or want to explore your options at least, Wharton might be worth it.
What do you want to do post-mba? What do you want to gain from your MBA experience? Both are great schools, but have slightly different specialties. If you got into both, I'm sure you have some idea of what each offer.
If you're going back, why aren't you getting sponsorship from MBB?
Hi dressden, First, congratulations! What a wonderful choice. You must feel relieved as well.
Still, It's such an open ended question -- where should you go? It's wonderful that you got aid (as in real $, not just loans). Clearly Kellogg wants you, or they wouldn't have been so generous. Wharton wants you too, but they don't have as big a crush on you as Kellogg does.
For what any of that is worth, Obviously they both think you will add to the class, and that's wonderful news. You are also going back to your firm, but what, if all things were available with the wave of a magic wand, would you be doing? Also, are you interested in going abroad to work? That might argue for a bigger international brand like Wharton. Or are you interested in getting really strong on your leadership skills? I think Kellogg might have the edge there. Certainly it has the edge in marketing, and possibly the fun factor, but everyone's idea of fun is different too.
And then there's the midwest vs. Philly. Personally, I love Philly, but I wouldn't have said that if I hadn't been 2 years ago when Wharton hosted me and a bunch of other admissions consultants like me. Chicago is swell, but Evanston isn't Chicago. Kellogg is building a new building, and that often brings a lot of life into a school's vibe. And gets it more visibility, somehow. Don't ask me how -- it's all part of the brand, I suspect.
Now, if you are female, I can tell you that the Wharton women rock. Not that the Kellogg women don't rock, but of all the women students I worked with and just know from around, the most interesting ones seemed to have gone to Wharton. Now that's all hearsay, I know, but I'm mentioning it because there are a lot of intangibles that go into a school choice. Not that the money isn't important, it is! But you want to figure out where you really feel you fit. That's a touchy-feely answer, but it's your life -- will the money even out after 10 years? 5 years? So it's really a case of what pulls you more.
Hope that helps, Betsy
I can get a sponsorship from MBB if I want to go back and commit for 2 years. I also have partial scholarships from both 20% from Wharton and 60 from Kellogg. So I have a choice and in addition I have partially saved for B-school. I know Wharton specializes in Finance while Kellogg in consulting. By the way my background is STEM. The student bodies and student faculty ratios are the approximately the same size. I also know that Wharton is no 3 in rankings while Kellogg is 5th. I think, the difference is small and as I am assured of being rehired - I am not sure it matters that much as far as the immediate future. The question is after another 5 years post MBA - do employers care that much - Wharton or Kellogg? Which is the incubator for startups? How about alumni network? What about International?
Seems like you just want a vacation. I think Kellogg outperforms Wharton in that regard.
this post shouldn't have gotten shit realest advice here
I would focus on if you think you want to career switch, and if so go to Wharton. Seems like there's no downside to that because it'll keep your options open if that is the case, but you wont pay for it anyway if you decide to go back to MBB. This is obviously assuming you are somewhat indifferent about location / culture differences between the two schools.
You asked:
Not really. Not sure they do even right at graduation.
Kellogg for the money.
Assuming you care about money, you should go to Kellogg because your opportunities will be the same from either school.
Assuming you don't care about money, you should go to Kellogg because you probably won't make much of it in the future and every penny you save will count big.
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I'm a first year at Wharton, so take this with a grain of salt... I've had an awesome first year, way better than I could have hoped for. My biggest pieces of advice are go to the welcome weekends of both schools and talk to as many students as you can. It's the only way to get a true sense of the programs. I had the same impression as I think a lot of people do: Wharton = a cutthroat finance school. That couldn't be farther from the truth. You can graduate from Wharton by taking only a half semester of finance courses. It's really just an school. And, people are actually surprisingly cool, chill, and laid back. I think this has to do with the grade non-disclosure. A few people care about academics, but most don't and instead spend more time on clubs, career, social, startup ideas, etc. To your questions, Wharton has fantastic resources/connections. I'm doing banking so can't speak to it directly, but Wharton has tremendous entrepreneurship resources. We have dozens of startups from students in my class. Wharton has a huge and strong alumni network and alums are very supportive. Roughly 1/3 of the class goes into consulting while only half that number goes into banking now, so I would argue Wharton is just as much a consulting school as anywhere else. Internationally the school has fantastic name recognition and we have study abroad and tons of school and student-led trips. And, Philly is awesome.
I could go on forever and I'm sure you're getting input from lots of family and friends, but bottom line you really have to go to the schools and see for yourself, as well as talk to students and alums. You can't go wrong either way, just figure out where you think you fit. But, I think it's very easy for a very wide range of people to find a great fit at Wharton. Happy to answer additional, specific questions directly, so feel free to PM me.
Agree with Fuld.
School differences is negligible. Maybe Wharton has an edge? Maybe not. 5 years out it's even more negligible. Kellogg for the money, unless you have some strong preference on location or fit.
As I have said I am a STEM graduate currently in consulting. Therefore neither Marketing nor Finance are strong areas for STEMs. Kellogg I believe is good for Marketing, while Wharton is good for Finance. Which career path is better in the long run - Finance or Marketing especially for a STEM graduate Again thanks for all you answers up to now. These give me good feedback
question: was this monkey shit vote in error? Seems pretty relevant to the discussion.
Hello, just do little math and you will see that Kellogg is best choice for long term, no one wants to be crippled by debt for long
I would go to Kellogg too, seems much more fun school and better for your goals. Plus, its giving you more than double in aid to what Wharton is offering, which is a lot to say. You will have the time of your life at Evanston, unless your really into Finance, Wharton isn't the best choice from these two. Good luck!
Congrats and great to be in a position to make these kinds of choices, no? Visit both schools, hang out with students, go to classes, talk to alumni, and choice the place where you feel like you will have the best two years... And since you are sponsored, spend the summer doing something awesome like traveling or a startup, and go abroad to study for a term!!!
I go to Kellogg, and absolutely LOVE it. I went to a finance-oriented school similar to Wharton for undergrad (NYU Stern), and didn't like it nearly as much. Kellogg is a very consultant oriented school (even more so than marketing), so if you like the consulting people (or at-least like them better than finance people - collaboration versus individualism), you should like it here. Plus - it's a ton of fun here. Feel free to PM me.
I would say Wharton but that's just me. The answer should be in your mind and heart. If you can't make decision for yourself it's worrying considering the fact that you are going to study for an MBA. If you have already made your mind up then that's great.
http://poetsandquants.com/2015/03/30/what-wharton-mbas-dislike-about-th…
Am planning to visit both schools and try to decide later. Can I ask Wharton for more money? If so how do I go about doing it?
Good plan, no need to rush into a decision. I tried to negotiate my financial aid offer with Wharton during round 1 but they told me that is against their policy. Good luck on your decision, and congrats on being in this position!
Yeah you don't want to piss of Wharton by negotiating, take the money and go to Kellogg, it ain't that hard. Check that article on Wharton by the way, that will give you some insights into what's really happening at the school
What's the harm in asking (nicely ) ? If they say no, it is against policy (as they did with @cantslowdown they wouldn't take away admission -- they only do that if they found out something truly awful, like you faked your undergraduate degree. People ask all the time and they either get the official answer, or maybe the school finds a way. You never know. Schools do take their competitions' offers into consideration as they try to increase yield. Not every time, and "competition" is different for every admissions board, but it does happen.
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