Sloan vs Wharton vs Booth vs Kellogg

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Please share your perspectives on Sloan, Wharton, Booth and Kellogg. Its commonly thought that Wharton is the best finance feeder of these four schools. Is that really true? Which of these schools would provide the best student experience?

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Jun 29, 2010

Really? Do a search please, this topic has been beaten into the ground.

Wharton is a finance feeder
Harvard is amazing
Kellogg is good, but I always thought of it as more of a marketing school
MIT is quanty (I just made that word up)

All are top schools. All can get you to WS. All are very different.

Jun 29, 2010
AnthonyD1982:

Really? Do a search please, this topic has been beaten into the ground.

Wharton is a finance feeder
Harvard is amazing
Kellogg is good, but I always thought of it as more of a marketing school
MIT is quanty (I just made that word up)

All are top schools. All can get you to WS. All are very different.

Better yet, he should just track your posts. I swear I've seen you post about MBAs and MSFs more than you should have to.

Jun 29, 2010
JohnnyCage:
AnthonyD1982:

Really? Do a search please, this topic has been beaten into the ground.

Wharton is a finance feeder
Harvard is amazing
Kellogg is good, but I always thought of it as more of a marketing school
MIT is quanty (I just made that word up)

All are top schools. All can get you to WS. All are very different.

Better yet, he should just track your posts. I swear I've seen you post about MBAs and MSFs more than you should have to.

Johnny Cage is a vag.

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Jun 29, 2010
JohnnyCage:
AnthonyD1982:

Really? Do a search please, this topic has been beaten into the ground.

Wharton is a finance feeder
Harvard is amazing
Kellogg is good, but I always thought of it as more of a marketing school
MIT is quanty (I just made that word up)

All are top schools. All can get you to WS. All are very different.

Better yet, he should just track your posts. I swear I've seen you post about MBAs and MSFs more than you should have to.

LOL I try and focus on the MSF/MFE area which relates to me and also interests me.

Jun 29, 2010

I do not hold an MBA but have done my research on this. My personal opinion is that if you have a particular niche' that you want to get into, say "Debt Capital Raising for Technology Heavy companies" than maybe Sloan will help you achieve that better. This is subjective however. The reality is that you will get the job you want going to Sloan, HBS or Wharton. The rest is just gravy and personal preference.

My view.

Jun 29, 2010
recyclemoney:

The reality is that you will get the job you want going to Sloan, HBS or Wharton. The rest is just gravy and personal preference.

Not to be an ass, but the facts don't support your assumption. Neither do WSO member's anecdotal stories abut themselves and friends attending top programs.

I won't argue that you likely can get a great job if you attend one of these programs, but it is NOT guaranteed to be what you "want." Many people looking for buyside jobs are getting pushed back into IB because the options are very limited at this point.

Regards

Jun 29, 2010

You can get the job you want from any school in the top ~15ish, and certainly from Sloan, HBS, or Wharton. That doesn't mean it's guaranteed, but it's not the schools' fault either. They give you the access, it's on you after that.

Jun 29, 2010
Cartwright:

You can get the job you want from any school in the top ~15ish, and certainly from Sloan, HBS, or Wharton. That doesn't mean it's guaranteed, but it's not the schools' fault either. They give you the access, it's on you after that.

They set you up for success and provide access to the job market, but there is no certainty that there will be jobs available in the industry you want and it doesn't mean employers will be hiring.

Regards

Jun 29, 2010

exactly... it's the ppl that make the cut, not the school... goldman TMT won't guarantee admission into any of these schools too
P.S. Columbia is pretty famous for finance too

Jun 29, 2010

Why do these always spiral into HBS discussions? I didn't see HBS anywhere in the title...

If you're looking to do finance, I think you have to go with Wharton or Chicago. Most people say that Chicago has the best finance faculty in the world, and given the other benefits (more fun city, nicer campus, etc.) I think it will offer a better student experience. Several very senior people I work with have said "if i were doing my MBA today, I'd go to Chicago."

That said, check back with me in a couple years, since I'm headed out there this fall. I don't think you can go wrong with Wharton either, tho.

Jun 29, 2010

Also, I put this together back when I was applying.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AndCUjb9VV...
It tracks the number of ppl from each program who work at various firms, based on searches of linkedin. Obviously prone to numerous data measurement biases, but I think it gives a rough picture of the size of the alumni base you will have at these companies if you go to one of these schools.

Feel free to add more firms, if you have the time. The data is now probably 3 months old, so there may be slight changes...

Jul 8, 2010
jankynoname:

Also, I put this together back when I was applying.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AndCUjb9VV...
It tracks the number of ppl from each program who work at various firms, based on searches of linkedin. Obviously prone to numerous data measurement biases, but I think it gives a rough picture of the size of the alumni base you will have at these companies if you go to one of these schools.

Feel free to add more firms, if you have the time. The data is now probably 3 months old, so there may be slight changes...

Cool spreadsheet but why do some schools have .5 students?

Jun 29, 2010

jankynoname,

Thanks for sharing the spreadsheet! Out of curiosity, why are there no Stern MBA alums at GS?

Jun 29, 2010

Yeah, that's a good catch. It must have been accidentally deleted. Stern actually has 202 at GS, which is more than any other program. People can interpret that however they want.

Jun 29, 2010

It doesn't fucking matter what school you go to. As long as you don't go to some shit hole and you have a decent ability to network you will be fine.

if your alumni database on wall street is 400 versus 500 people then what does it really matter? you aren't going to call 2000 alumni, you will call 4 or 5 at each firm and build a solid group of people who are going to bat for you when it comes time to select super day lists.

last 2 years on my floor no one from wharton even made it to the final rounds (except at the analyst level)... and the one faggot from wharton (analyst) who did start in my group last year is the worst analyst on the floor

Jun 29, 2010

Well, wingman12's comment is rather blunt but I agree with it in many ways. As someone that was debating between matriculating between two of H/S/W/K (rejected from the other two), I can definitely say that any of those schools will present you with fine opportunities and most of your success in the job search will be driven by who you know as well as what you've done in the workplace before going to business school. Certainly, you'll hear a lot of people say that HBS has the best placements in PE/HF, but that's because it has the greatest concentration of people that held relevant jobs in PE/HF before going to school. On the other hand, as cphbravo96 pointed out, there will be a lot of people trying to go to top schools thinking that it will be their golden ticket to "switching" into PE/HF/VC/corporate strategy or some other random field with no prior work experience! Yes, it's possible but quite difficult and simply going to a top business school doesn't ensure that the transition will be successful.

Mostly, attending a top business school (whether that's top 2, 3, 5, 7 or whatever number you see fit) is a stamp of approval on your resume -- it basically says that you've made the cut at a "potential future business leader." However, your success with the job search will hinge largely upon your existing knowledge and experience with respect to those jobs that you're trying to get. As for which school provides the "best student experience," who knows? That's a bit of a loaded question from the original poster. I mean, are there really people on this forum -- or anywhere -- that have attended 3-4 business schools in their life and can "compare" those experiences? If you're talking about general things like exit opportunities, what you learn in the classroom, and so forth, most of the top schools will be pretty comparable.

There are a couple other common misconceptions about business school. One is that where you went to school matters significantly 5-10 years after you graduate -- in reality, it's just not that important. You're much more likely to associate with people that are in the same or similar industry rather than some random dude that went to the same business school as you. From an employment standpoint, people will judge you based on what you've done lately, rather than where you went to school some years ago. Thinking otherwise would be akin to believing that your peers in college cared about where you went to middle school.

The third most common misconception is that the average person somehow cares about where you went to business school -- maybe it's just typical for many MBA's to think they're the center of the universe, but most people you meet don't care where you got admitted, where you ended up matriculating, etc. with the exception of the people that you go to school with. Frankly, I've been told that about 2-3 weeks into business school, you're no longer concerned about which school is most prestigious or what your friends think of you -- your attention instead completely shifts to trying to get a summer job.

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Jul 7, 2010

By far Wharton is the best finance feeder. They breed IBD drones there, and serve them up to the large IB's to swallow up and spit out after 2-3 years. Steer away from Wharton if you're not looking to go into IBD.

Jul 7, 2010
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