Villanova or Claremont McKenna MSF program?
Which MSF program would you recommend for someone who went to a non-target undergrad who wants to break into either Asset Management or equity research? I would prefer to live on the West Coast in the long run, but I am geographically flexible for at least the first 10 years of my career. The biggest factor for me in school choice is the best job placement in my field of interest.
if you want to live on the west coast, go to claremont. they're both excellent schools
West Coast = Claremont. No debate.
claremont for sure....fantastic school imo
Claremont... I would kill for the opportunity to go back in time and apply to Claremont/Pomona
Of the two and based upon you saying West Coast, Claremont.
But both definitely solid schools and from what I have seen place well in Asset Management.
how well does claremonts mfin program place into ibd and MC? does anyone know?
http://www.cmc.edu/mastersinfinance/career_management/placement.php
Simple google search, I find, does the trick
Congrats on both acceptances, both are great schools.
I would definitely go with Claremont for West Coast recruiting. Much stronger network in SF and LA than Villanova.
Novice,
I was hoping to hear from someone who went to the program, since the list doesn't fully answer everything I wanted to know(like for example, did the kids who go there get the jobs as a result of cmc or as a result of their undergrad contacts). No need to be f*cking sarcastic about things.
If you want to work west coast, go to CMC. I went to nova and am saying this.
Just curious if anyone knows what the maths requirements are for the CMC program. I checked the website but came up empty.
It isn't too quant, but they get a lot of top Paloma students. Program is not for slackers.
You are "supposed" to have done a bunch of calculus courses but i don't think that matters much. Placements are a combo of CMC's network and personal network.
Thanks for the replies. The one concern I have with Claremont is that most of their students still do not have jobs or are going to big 4/ops types of positions. It may account for how often CMC updates this, but for the high quality of the students who attend there, it worries me.
Living in California is nice, but its more important that I'm doing front office asset management, equity research, or s&t in that order of preference. I plan on moving back anyway when I start a fund of my own.
http://www.cmc.edu/mastersinfinance/prospective_students/profiles/2011/
[quote=YoungHedge]Thanks for the replies. The one concern I have with Claremont is that most of their students still do not have jobs or are going to big 4/ops types of positions. It may account for how often CMC updates this, but for the high quality of the students who attend there, it worries me.
Living in California is nice, but its more important that I'm doing front office asset management, equity research, or s&t in that order of preference. I plan on moving back anyway when I start a fund of my own.
http://www.cmc.edu/mastersinfinance/prospective_students/profiles/2011/…]
I've been quite concerned about the placement stats this year as well. Have you talked to any alumni or current students?
In the placement stats for 2010 it seems they are in nice,front office positions...
GS Lev Fin MS IBD Harris Williams IBD HLHZ IBD CTC Trading E&Y Consulting BOC IBD Amgen Corp Fin ...and some others. Most people got exactly what they wanted.
Interviews at:
all of the above + Mckinsey, Bain, BCG, UBS, Citi, DRW, PIMCO, Lazard, Soc.Gen, BNP Paribas, BlackRock and a whole bunch of others
The networking trips 2012 class will be earlier, i.e. firms will actually consider you. This year networking trips were in November and so recruiting was done.
Cool! Thanks a lot
Most people got exactly what they wanted.
EY Consulting (really)???
Amgen corp. fin (really)???
im sure the kid that interned at goldman actually wanted to go FT at Prager, Sealy, and co.
I talked to the placement officials today and the class of 2011 all have placed in bulge bracket positions (mostly ibanking or consulting). Geographically neutral, which school is better for equity research, equity s&t, or asset management? I just found out I got scholarship from CMC which eliminates the cost difference between the schools (slightly leaning towards CMC when posting this).
nvm.
Honestly, if you have to ask you're not CMC material.
Honestly I'm from the East Coast, but Villanova? The one in Pennsylvania? I wouldn't send my dog to school there.
^douche
I'm a student in the Claremont program. The placement is not inflated.
LevFin at GS is not capital markets; they are two different groups. (Some firms are organized that way; not all.) It's true that levfin does less modeling than industry groups at GS, but they work with financial sponsors a lot. Analysts in the levfin group are industry-specific. It's not a pricing role. There's a lot of movement b/w LF industry group and the industry group. They have good placement with PE and hedge funds.
The student that got Amgen turned down an offer from JPM, and Amgen actually was his first choice. He has a ridiculously high salary, benefits, starting bonus, and stock options. He'll have a forty-hour work-week, live in SoCal, and make more money starting than the IBD analysts.
Not everyone in the program tried hard to find a job. Those that put the effort in from the get-go have good jobs.
I hate claremont b/c i wanted to go there and my high gmat wasn't good enough because I'm a couple years older than the average person there and didn't goto claremont undergrad or stanford or ucla. fuck them.
Hey, this is ridiculous. I went to an utterly no-name school and got no problem with admission. Maybe you didn't apply by the priority deadline when they had more open slots, bro?
you have work experience though. the last thing i did with my life was complete a math minor. i applied first week of feb.
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