I don't work at UBS but It is shocking that people take Barcap/DB/Citigroup/Nomura over UBS... its still no 6 global M&A..., No 1 in Asia and Australia....
Time will proof everything..
pivot1990I don't work at UBS but It is shocking that people take Barcap/DB/Citigroup/Nomura over UBS... its still no 6 global M&A..., No 1 in Asia and Australia....
Time will proof everything..
I would never work @ UBS, however I feel like people on this board forget there are markets outside the US. UBS is still a huge and well respected bank overseas. Even in terms of the talent they've lost in the US, it's all cyclical.
Jeffries is becoming the new DLJ/DBL but UBS still is a huge international force experiencing trouble with their US banking ops.
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Jeffries is becoming the new DLJ
I rarely call people out, but this statement is fucking retarded. Either you've never worked with a real ex-DLJ baller, or you are a fucking moron.
Unfortunately, no bank will ever match the culture or prestige of DLJ. I was fortunate enough to work for 4 ex-DLJers. What you've read in Monkey Business is tip of the iceberg. The real stuff happened in regional offices (LA/SF/Houston/Chicago), not in NY.
KevinNYCThey were the Nazi's bankers. A certain ethnic cohort with a strong presence on the Street will never forget!
A certain ethnic cohort needs to learn how to let go....Rothschild helped the French make money off of Vietnam while our soldiers were there, please don't tell me that doesn't look bad. The people doing the deals are long gone. Hell, we traded with the USSR during the cold war. You're completely entitled to your opinions, but business and culture are two things that even war typically fails to completely stifle.
[very] short list of businesses doing deals with Germany during that period:
IBM
DuPont
Shell
Kodak
Ford
GE
The Fed
Brown+Harriman
The country of Switzerland
DB, by the way IS a German bank
GS
LEH
MS
CS
UBS
and the list goes on, I could do this all day
It's the past, can we stop mentally reliving it over and over and OVER? My grandparents were in a camp, so don't bother me with righteousness. I'll quote them, "It's time to just start moving on".
KevinNYCThey were the Nazi's bankers. A certain ethnic cohort with a strong presence on the Street will never forget!
A certain ethnic cohort needs to learn how to let go....Rothschild helped the French make money off of Vietnam while our soldiers were there, please don't tell me that doesn't look bad.
---Nahh, doesn't look that bad... But seriously. French in Vietnam = Nazis? Maybe my math is off. French Army equals Nazi systemic killing of millions of people? I guess we have different interpretations of WWII.
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[very] short list of businesses doing deals with Germany during that period:
IBM
DuPont
Shell
Kodak
Ford
GE
The Fed
Brown+Harriman
The country of Switzerland
DB, by the way IS a German bank
GS
LEH
MS
CS
UBS
and the list goes on, I could do this all day
---Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers did business with the Nazis? I'd love to see some legitimate references there (no racist sites, please).
----You could make lists of Nazi companies all day?...
i interviewed with them and met with an ex-DLJ guy
not only did he say that Jefferies was modeling itself to a certain extent off of them---he said it's the only firm that he's been at since then that is in any sense comparable.
As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
awm55As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
I am in Europe and you cannot believe how much fun we are making of our friend who starts at UBS next summer. It's borderline mobbing.
awm55As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
I am in Europe and you cannot believe how much fun we are making of our friend who starts at UBS next summer. It's borderline mobbing.
Good to know the douchebaggery is international.
I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
awm55As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
I am in Europe and you cannot believe how much fun we are making of our friend who starts at UBS next summer. It's borderline mobbing.
Cause you and your friends are college kid retards who source all their knowledge from WSO and TSR..
UBS emerged suprisingly strong after being hit so hard during the crisis.. and everyone was suprised how well they payed this year throughout all levels.
Deal exposure and cash are, I'm afraid, stronger arguments than some "JK" and "LOL" turds' prestige perceptions.
awm55As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
I am in Europe and you cannot believe how much fun we are making of our friend who starts at UBS next summer. It's borderline mobbing.
Well I hope you do the same to anyone starting at MS.
says UBS finished out ahead of BAML, Citi, DB and BarCap for FYE 2010. I would happily take an offer from UBS over any of those four places, but wouldn't take it ahead of CS or JPM unless we were talking the difference between the best one or two groups at UBS and the worst three to five groups at CS or JPM.
You would obviously not be very smart to take UBS over Goldman or Morgan Stanley, all things equal.
Honestly, can you be more pretentious? You recognize you are arrogant but do nothing to hide it or apologize for it. Chances are, no matter HOW well-connected you may be or think yourself to be, there will be someone powerful enough here who you may come across who is as sickened by your attitude in real life as online. Finance is a small world. If you really want to, go ahead and be the next Raj Verma/jeffrey chiang.
I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
A Posse Ad EsseHonestly, can you be more pretentious? You recognize you are arrogant but do nothing to hide it or apologize for it. Chances are, no matter HOW well-connected you may be or think yourself to be, there will be someone powerful enough here who you may come across who is as sickened by your attitude in real life as online. Finance is a small world. If you really want to, go ahead and be the next Raj Verma/jeffrey chiang.
Speaking of which, the troll brigade has been a little quiet around here lately. I'm bored, someone stupid please come on this site soon.....
So everyone at UBS should be looked down on because 60-70 years ago people did business with the German government? What kind of retarded thinking is that.
UBS is a fine bank. Make money and don't listen to what anyone says. If your basing your decisions off what a bunch of Internet pussies think you have more issues to worry about.
I use an IBM, omggggg, noooooo, they did business with the Germans. Ohhh noooo.
ANTSo everyone at UBS should be looked down on because 60-70 years ago people did business with the German government? What kind of retarded thinking is that.
UBS is a fine bank. Make money and don't listen to what anyone says. If your basing your decisions off what a bunch of Internet pussies think you have more issues to worry about.
I use an IBM, omggggg, noooooo, they did business with the Germans. Ohhh noooo.
Eh, I agree with you but I know more than one person of a similar ethnic group who has told me they are not comfortable buying BMWs for the same reason.
Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you.
ANTSo everyone at UBS should be looked down on because 60-70 years ago people did business with the German government? What kind of retarded thinking is that.
UBS is a fine bank. Make money and don't listen to what anyone says. If your basing your decisions off what a bunch of Internet pussies think you have more issues to worry about.
I use an IBM, omggggg, noooooo, they did business with the Germans. Ohhh noooo.
Eh, I agree with you but I know more than one person of a similar ethnic group who has told me they are not comfortable buying BMWs for the same reason.
that is ridiculous...
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non-target BB BankerFolks, at least UBS is a top notch bank (top 3) in Asia Pacific except Japan.
I agree, but it's kind of unsettling to see that UBS' Asian operations were hit with quite a few high-profile defections in 2010. Most notably, UBS lost its chairman of Asian investment banking (and top guy in China), as well as its head of capital markets for Asia and its Head of Asian ECM.
They also lost Henry Koder this month to BAML which is another huge loss...
Forget about UBS, BofA is even worse.
They are the only ones, who are still in the red and they now revealed that the Fed didn't allow them to pay a dividend. It really must suck to work for that laggard.
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you're the joke since u work at UBS
lol @ haters tag, U MAD U WORK @ UBS?
haha man i'm at a 'no-name' boutique, i'd be happy to lateral to UBS
UBS is a BB. Are you that gullible @Julian?
it's actually a BBB
BB- maybe. Junk Status.
SB
He'd get one from me too if I had any left.
+1 Posse. go ahead!
because jefferies will replace it
check it out http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/932f39ec-54ae-11e0-b1ed-00144feab49a.html#axz…
For some reason that article just made me really, really happy inside. Good read.
This is WSO, we respect only 3 things: Harvard, GS, and KKR.
Bateman worked at boutique. Jusayin....
UBS is a target bank.
Yeah. Targeted by the IRS.
Not if they have no bonus.
Someone has been reading the Dealbreaker comment section a little too closely recently.. grain of salt
I don't work at UBS but It is shocking that people take Barcap/DB/Citigroup/Nomura over UBS... its still no 6 global M&A..., No 1 in Asia and Australia.... Time will proof everything..
I would never work @ UBS, however I feel like people on this board forget there are markets outside the US. UBS is still a huge and well respected bank overseas. Even in terms of the talent they've lost in the US, it's all cyclical.
Jeffries is becoming the new DLJ/DBL but UBS still is a huge international force experiencing trouble with their US banking ops.
I rarely call people out, but this statement is fucking retarded. Either you've never worked with a real ex-DLJ baller, or you are a fucking moron.
Unfortunately, no bank will ever match the culture or prestige of DLJ. I was fortunate enough to work for 4 ex-DLJers. What you've read in Monkey Business is tip of the iceberg. The real stuff happened in regional offices (LA/SF/Houston/Chicago), not in NY.
[quote=Independent Gestion] I would never work @ UBS, quote]
didnt realize college seniors had such high horses these days.
yes indeed bloomberg ranked them 6 globally.
They were the Nazi's bankers. A certain ethnic cohort with a strong presence on the Street will never forget!
[very] short list of businesses doing deals with Germany during that period: IBM DuPont Shell Kodak Ford GE The Fed Brown+Harriman The country of Switzerland DB, by the way IS a German bank GS LEH MS CS UBS and the list goes on, I could do this all day
It's the past, can we stop mentally reliving it over and over and OVER? My grandparents were in a camp, so don't bother me with righteousness. I'll quote them, "It's time to just start moving on".
---Nahh, doesn't look that bad... But seriously. French in Vietnam = Nazis? Maybe my math is off. French Army equals Nazi systemic killing of millions of people? I guess we have different interpretations of WWII.
---Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers did business with the Nazis? I'd love to see some legitimate references there (no racist sites, please). ----You could make lists of Nazi companies all day?...
Hey Phantom
i interviewed with them and met with an ex-DLJ guy
not only did he say that Jefferies was modeling itself to a certain extent off of them---he said it's the only firm that he's been at since then that is in any sense comparable.
did u see their fixed income numbers today?
Nope, I don't work there.
"UBS - Ur Bonus Sucks"
-someone else
Or it can stand for "Ultimate Buttsecks" - either way, I wouldn't want to work there.
As someone already said, they are 6'th internationally for M&A. If this were in Europe or Asia we would not even be having this conversation, they are weaker in the US though.
Cause you and your friends are college kid retards who source all their knowledge from WSO and TSR.. UBS emerged suprisingly strong after being hit so hard during the crisis.. and everyone was suprised how well they payed this year throughout all levels. Deal exposure and cash are, I'm afraid, stronger arguments than some "JK" and "LOL" turds' prestige perceptions.
Well I hope you do the same to anyone starting at MS.
Just one metric (mergermarket and Thomson had different calculations than Dealogic I believe), but:
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-LP258_Dealog_P_201101031716…
says UBS finished out ahead of BAML, Citi, DB and BarCap for FYE 2010. I would happily take an offer from UBS over any of those four places, but wouldn't take it ahead of CS or JPM unless we were talking the difference between the best one or two groups at UBS and the worst three to five groups at CS or JPM.
You would obviously not be very smart to take UBS over Goldman or Morgan Stanley, all things equal.
i'd rather work for UBS than Goldman Sachs
hit up london or geneva and just ball out
Honestly, can you be more pretentious? You recognize you are arrogant but do nothing to hide it or apologize for it. Chances are, no matter HOW well-connected you may be or think yourself to be, there will be someone powerful enough here who you may come across who is as sickened by your attitude in real life as online. Finance is a small world. If you really want to, go ahead and be the next Raj Verma/jeffrey chiang.
So everyone at UBS should be looked down on because 60-70 years ago people did business with the German government? What kind of retarded thinking is that.
UBS is a fine bank. Make money and don't listen to what anyone says. If your basing your decisions off what a bunch of Internet pussies think you have more issues to worry about.
I use an IBM, omggggg, noooooo, they did business with the Germans. Ohhh noooo.
Eh, I agree with you but I know more than one person of a similar ethnic group who has told me they are not comfortable buying BMWs for the same reason.
that is ridiculous...
no homo pivot1990
anyone else confirmed working @ UBS?
lets make a list.
LOL @ THESE LOSERS
If you shoot me a PM, I'd be happy to put in a call for you at Piper.
I wouldn't wear hugo boss if you hold grudges.
Folks, at least UBS is a top notch bank (top 3) in Asia Pacific except Japan.
I agree, but it's kind of unsettling to see that UBS' Asian operations were hit with quite a few high-profile defections in 2010. Most notably, UBS lost its chairman of Asian investment banking (and top guy in China), as well as its head of capital markets for Asia and its Head of Asian ECM.
They also lost Henry Koder this month to BAML which is another huge loss...
Totally agree Valk, but these things happend in the industry - who knows maybe next day some MS/GS bankers will jump ship to UBS...
One interesting region to take note of is Australia. UBS is absoluately winning there. UBS in AUS is like GS in NY...
Lol who would want to work at Jeffco if its going to be DLJ? I would not want to be "busy" like that
Forget about UBS, BofA is even worse. They are the only ones, who are still in the red and they now revealed that the Fed didn't allow them to pay a dividend. It really must suck to work for that laggard.
yeah man good idea, let's rank banks :)
barcap ubs and baml are all crap.
elite boutique > gs > ms > JPM
I'd say prestige-wise it is: GS > MS = JPM > CS > Barcap > UBS > BofA > City > Wella Fargo > RBS
Of course if you take a look at these league tables JPM is way ahead!
LOL CITY? LOL Wells Fargo? LOL RBS?
Where the hell is DB? You include RBS and "Wella Fargo" but not DB? You a freshman?
I forgot about DB. You may place them between Barcap and UBS.
Barcap that shithole is nowhere in Europe and nowhere in Asia... damn you american guys are sick to rank it so high
Oh woah, two of the most arrogant posters on this site collide!! Let the fireworks ensue.
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