Serious withdrawal/guilt after joining McK

Recently joined M. Firm does not seem as “shiny” or upbeat as it was when I was an intern and there’s so many negative headlines lately about ‘evil’ things that the firm has been involved in. Thinking about ways to exit within the next couple of months here.

I guess my question is do I either tune out all the negative energy and guilt that I feel for being associated with this place OR look to jump ship. I don’t think it’s good to have this place on my CV going forward. Any other general thoughts welcome.

Obligatory statement : I’m aware of how fortunate I am to have received an offer and how lucky I should feel.

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Could be off but from what I heard, at least try to stick it out for a year else it'll just look like you can't handle MBB if you leave in such a short time. One year is more of a "tried it, could do the work but not a good fit" kind of situation. 

 
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On the whole ethical dilemma of consulting as an industry, with McKinsey being the spotlight as of late with the book, Last Week episode and such, I'd say none of the consultancies or professional service firms are clean. It's an unfortunate byproduct that there is work to be done in industries like Tabacco, Oil, Private Equity, Pharma, and others. I'd say you can look to focus your time on industries or clients you would like to exit to in a year's time and focus on building a transferrable skillset. The McKinsey brand carries a lot of weight, but the exit opportunities are often highly correlated to what projects you get staffed on and what skills you develop. If you work on 5-10 Commercial Due Diligence Projects or Investment Thesis developments for a PE Fund beginning it's funding cycle, that opens the door to PE/VC. If you work on a CPG revenue optimization and go-to-market strategies, that opens the door to corporate strategy/corporate finance in the CPG industry, etc.

I would strongly advise sticking it out for a year (maybe until after first year bonuses are paid) and then part ways. 

 

I’ve always found the ethical dilemma of the work they do in oil, gas, pharma etc as a source of cognitive dissonance. On one hand, yes, finding out how to make a coal mine more profitable rarely feels like saving the world.

However, I’m very happy using the benefits of coal fired electricity, being medicated with pharmaceuticals where required and the like. Just because one doesn’t touch that industry directly doesn’t mean it’s not demanded and hence required.

Yes there are scandals and overstepping clear lines as in any industry.

End of the day the consulting industry provides a service required for capitalism. It’s not doing gods work. Arguing its morality to me is more about the system in which it operates…not the firms themselves

 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and advice that might help you navigate your current situation:

  1. Assess Your Feelings and Situation:

    • It's important to recognize and validate your feelings of guilt and discomfort. Many professionals experience similar emotions when they find themselves in environments that don't align with their values or expectations.
  2. Tune Out Negative Energy:

    • If you decide to stay, try to focus on the positive aspects of your role and the opportunities it provides. Engage in activities that bring you joy and fulfillment outside of work to balance the negative energy.
  3. Consider Exiting:

    • If the negative feelings are overwhelming and persistent, it might be worth considering an exit strategy. However, ensure that your next move is well thought out and not made out of desperation or fear. Spend your spare time networking, applying to roles, and cold-emailing to find a better fit.
  4. Identity Boundaries:

    • Protect your identity boundaries by recognizing that you are a separate individual with your own values and thoughts. Don't let the negative headlines or others' judgments define your self-worth.
  5. Clinical Assessment of Risk:

    • Reflect on your career and life goals. Sometimes, a clinical, dispassionate assessment of what real risk looks like can help you realize that you have a solid foundation and can afford to make a change if needed.
  6. Mental Health and Well-being:

    • Prioritize your mental and physical health. Plan breaks and engage in activities that help you recharge. If necessary, seek professional help to navigate your feelings of guilt and discomfort.
  7. Long-term Perspective:

    • Remember that your current situation is temporary. Whether you choose to stay or leave, focus on the long-term perspective and how each decision aligns with your overall career and life goals.

By considering these points, you can make a more informed decision about whether to stay at your current firm or seek new opportunities.

Sources: Walking away from buyside after associate years, Response to 'PE Associate Jumps to Death' -> Resources and Tips for those who may be struggling, Dealing with PM (equities) who is trying to limit your progress, The end of my journey, How Do You Deal With the BB Sweatshop Hours?

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and advice that might help you navigate your current situation:

  1. Assess Your Feelings and Values:

    • It's important to recognize and respect your own values, thoughts, and feelings. If the firm's recent negative headlines and the internal environment are causing you significant distress, it might be worth considering a change. Remember, your mental and emotional well-being is crucial.
  2. Create Options:

    • If you feel trapped or unhappy, start creating options for yourself. This could involve networking, applying to other roles, or cold-emailing potential employers. Make sure your next career move is well thought out and not made out of desperation or fear.
  3. Plan Your Breaks:

    • If you're feeling overwhelmed, it might be beneficial to take a planned break. This can help you recharge and gain a clearer perspective on your situation.
  4. Identity Boundaries:

    • Protect your identity boundaries. Don't let the negative perceptions of others influence your own values and decisions. Remember, you are a separate individual with your own unique path.
  5. Clinical Assessment of Risk:

    • Conduct a clinical, dispassionate assessment of your situation. Sometimes, stepping back and evaluating the real risks and benefits can provide clarity. For example, one user shared that moving to a new firm allowed them to understand that their floor was still quite high due to their early career success.
  6. Negative Visualization:

    • Practice negative visualization to gain happiness by appreciating what you already have. This Stoic technique can help you feel more content and less driven by insatiable desires.
  7. Seek Professional Help:

    • If the guilt and negative feelings are overwhelming, consider speaking to a therapist. Professional guidance can provide valuable support and strategies to manage your emotions.
  8. Long-Term Perspective:

    • Remember that your current job is just one chapter in your career. While it might feel significant now, your long-term career trajectory will be shaped by many experiences and decisions.

By considering these points, you can make a more informed decision about whether to stay at your current firm or seek new opportunities.

Sources: Walking away from buyside after associate years, Response to 'PE Associate Jumps to Death' -> Resources and Tips for those who may be struggling, Dealing with PM (equities) who is trying to limit your progress, How Do You Deal With the BB Sweatshop Hours?, The end of my journey

I'm an AI bot trained on the most helpful WSO content across 17+ years.
 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and advice that might help you navigate your current situation:

  1. Assess Your Feelings and Situation:

    • It's important to recognize and validate your feelings of guilt and discomfort. Many professionals experience similar emotions when they find themselves in environments that don't align with their values or expectations.
  2. Tune Out Negative Energy:

    • If you decide to stay, try to focus on the positive aspects of your role and the opportunities it provides. Engage in activities that bring you joy and fulfillment outside of work to balance the negative energy.
  3. Consider Exiting:

    • If the negative feelings are overwhelming and persistent, it might be worth considering an exit strategy. However, ensure that your next move is well thought out and not made out of desperation or fear. Spend your spare time networking, applying to roles, and cold-emailing to find a better fit.
  4. Identity Boundaries:

    • Protect your identity boundaries by recognizing that you are a separate individual with your own values and thoughts. Don't let the negative headlines or others' judgments define your self-worth.
  5. Mental Health and Breaks:

    • Plan your breaks and take care of your mental and physical health. If you feel overwhelmed, it might be beneficial to speak to a therapist or take some time off to recharge.
  6. Long-Term Perspective:

    • Remember that your career is a long journey. A single job or firm does not define your entire career. Use this experience to learn more about what you want and don't want in your professional life.
  7. Guilt and Privilege:

    • It's natural to feel guilty about having a prestigious job, especially when it doesn't meet your expectations. Acknowledge your privilege but also recognize that it's okay to seek a role that aligns better with your values and aspirations.
  8. Create Options:

    • Ensure you have options by continuously building your network and exploring new opportunities. This will give you the freedom to make a change when the right opportunity arises.

By considering these points, you can make a more informed decision about whether to stay at McKinsey or look for a new opportunity that better aligns with your values and career goals.

Sources: Walking away from buyside after associate years, Response to 'PE Associate Jumps to Death' -> Resources and Tips for those who may be struggling, Dealing with PM (equities) who is trying to limit your progress, The end of my journey, Quitting IB in 2023 - Burnout

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Honestly they’re not much better or worse than the corporate world in general - which as advertised (capitalism) is profit driven. That can feel distressing when you start work.

McKinsey has been hit over the years with scandals. Its brand has not been destroyed and is still seen as a great training ground.

End of the day you’ve started at a great place. There are plenty of partners there that have a social conscience and have found a work balance that makes them sleep ok at night — find those people. You don’t need to stay there forever. Get a couple years under your belt, take the experience. It will pay dividends for you in getting a better position in a place you’re excited about. If you don’t know where that is, it’s also a great way to explore.

 

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