Career at $2-4B fund
Curious if anyone has insight into working at a ~$2 to 4B hedge fund with ~10 people total.
Specifically wondering: What does career progression typically look like at a fund this size? How does comp (base/bonus) compare to large multi-manager pod shops? Is there a meaningful difference in long-term trajectory or learning opportunities starting at a smaller fund like this versus jumping straight into a large pod?
Would really appreciate any thoughts or first-hand experience. Trying to get a sense of the trade-offs before making a decision. Thanks in advance!
At a $2-4B hedge fund with ~10 people, here's what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:
1. Career Progression at a Smaller Fund
2. Compensation (Base/Bonus)
3. Long-Term Trajectory and Learning Opportunities
4. Trade-Offs
Ultimately, the decision depends on your career goals. If you value entrepreneurial opportunities and broad exposure, a smaller fund might be the better fit. If you prefer structure, resources, and stability, a large pod shop could be the way to go.
Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/the-hedge-fund-experience-good-bad-ugly?customgpt=1, 7 Figure Hedge Fund Salary - Myth or Real?, The Hedge Fund Experience - Good, Bad, Ugly, What I've Learned About Hedge Fund Structure and Compensation, What I've Learned About Hedge Fund Structure and Compensation
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Those are usually very good seats (especially 3bn+), depending on the fund's history and mandate. Less upside but better work life balance, and at the right place better stability.
Yeah man, being at a USD 2-4bn fund as that 10th/11th employee right before they scale up to a USD 10bn fund with 15-17 employees is absolutely a sweet spot.
Can you elaborate on the mandate part? What type of strategy tend to work well for this setup?
Long-biased, no hurdle
There are a couple in that range. I caution you to be careful of churn and the work life balance and ask around.
There are at least 20-30. Probably more
A couple recent data points from funds in that range from my experience
Work and ability to take risk: at fund A I was told to expect work under a principal and primarily on his ideas unless I get promoted down the line.. more of a supporting role. Fund B was more or less the same but under a DoR structure and would report to him and bit more of a leeway to bring ideas. Big difference vs my ability to communicate directly with the PM and take on risk at my now previous role.. and MMs offered that ability from my research (I’m not an MM)
Comp: fund A was non NYC major metro and 425-450 targeted total comp with base slightly lower than 150k and sense that comp would top out a couple 100k above that range unless I got promoted (expectation based on others was not until 5-6yrs in the role). Fund B was in NYC with relatively lower base at 150k, no idea on total comp.. assumption was lower than fund B given AUM/IP (fund A’s AUM/IP was almost 2-3x that of fund B). Not to start a comp thread on an SM vs MM.. but MM obviously varies quite a lot under the right PM.. could be 0, could be much higher than what these SMs guided to me, etc. I was personally happier collecting a relatively stable paycheck at an SM vs swinging for the fences.
WLB: fund A’s expectation was ~60hrs/wk but generally seemed chill, fund B was a sweatshop. MM wlb varies depending on the PM but generally tough given performance expectations under constraints.
Strategy: varies from fund to fund.. fund A in my case had ability to hold long term, chase any asset class, any opportunity they liked. I very much preferred that vs being constrained at fund B or an MM. SMs also generally allowed me to stay a generalist which I preferred.
There’s no general right answer here.. which role is better for you depends on your goals and preferences.
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