Career at $2-4B fund

Curious if anyone has insight into working at a ~$2 to 4B hedge fund with ~10 people total.

Specifically wondering: What does career progression typically look like at a fund this size? How does comp (base/bonus) compare to large multi-manager pod shops? Is there a meaningful difference in long-term trajectory or learning opportunities starting at a smaller fund like this versus jumping straight into a large pod?

Would really appreciate any thoughts or first-hand experience. Trying to get a sense of the trade-offs before making a decision. Thanks in advance!

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At a $2-4B hedge fund with ~10 people, here's what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:

1. Career Progression at a Smaller Fund

  • Career progression at smaller funds is often less standardized compared to larger multi-manager pod shops.
  • Many people at smaller funds come from research backgrounds (internally or externally) and transition into more senior roles like portfolio managers (PMs) if they perform well.
  • Smaller teams mean fewer layers of hierarchy, so you may have more direct exposure to decision-making and portfolio management early on.
  • If you're good, you could either branch out on your own or wait for opportunities to take on more responsibility as the fund grows.

2. Compensation (Base/Bonus)

  • Compensation at smaller funds can vary significantly based on fund performance, culture, and the manager's philosophy.
  • Smaller funds often run lean, which can mean higher compensation per person if the fund performs well. For example, a portfolio manager at a $1B fund might earn a base of $250k with bonuses ranging from $500k to $3M depending on performance.
  • Junior roles at smaller funds might not pay as much as large pod shops initially, but the upside can be significant if you’re part of a high-performing team.
  • Larger pod shops, like Citadel or Millennium, tend to have more structured pay scales, with first-year associates earning around $191k on average, and senior associates or VPs earning significantly more.

3. Long-Term Trajectory and Learning Opportunities

  • Smaller Funds: You’ll likely gain broader exposure to the entire investment process, from idea generation to execution. This can be invaluable for developing a well-rounded skill set.
  • Large Pod Shops: These tend to be more specialized, with analysts focusing on specific sectors or strategies. While this can limit your exposure, it can also make you a deep expert in your niche.
  • Smaller funds often provide more entrepreneurial opportunities, as you’re closer to the economics of the fund and may have a chance to share in the upside if the fund performs well.
  • Larger pod shops, on the other hand, offer more stability and resources, but the competition is fierce, and the environment can be more cutthroat.

4. Trade-Offs

  • Smaller Fund Pros: Broader exposure, potential for higher upside, closer relationships with senior team members, and more entrepreneurial opportunities.
  • Smaller Fund Cons: Less stability, potentially lower initial pay, and fewer resources compared to large pod shops.
  • Large Pod Shop Pros: Structured career paths, access to significant resources, and potentially higher initial compensation.
  • Large Pod Shop Cons: More competition, less exposure to the full investment process, and a more rigid environment.

Ultimately, the decision depends on your career goals. If you value entrepreneurial opportunities and broad exposure, a smaller fund might be the better fit. If you prefer structure, resources, and stability, a large pod shop could be the way to go.

Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/the-hedge-fund-experience-good-bad-ugly?customgpt=1, 7 Figure Hedge Fund Salary - Myth or Real?, The Hedge Fund Experience - Good, Bad, Ugly, What I've Learned About Hedge Fund Structure and Compensation, What I've Learned About Hedge Fund Structure and Compensation

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A couple recent data points from funds in that range from my experience


Work and ability to take risk: at fund A I was told to expect work under a principal and primarily on his ideas unless I get promoted down the line.. more of a supporting role. Fund B was more or less the same but under a DoR structure and would report to him and bit more of a leeway to bring ideas. Big difference vs my ability to communicate directly with the PM and take on risk at my now previous role.. and MMs offered that ability from my research (I’m not an MM)


Comp: fund A was non NYC major metro and 425-450 targeted total comp with base slightly lower than 150k and sense that comp would top out a couple 100k above that range unless I got promoted (expectation based on others was not until 5-6yrs in the role). Fund B was in NYC with relatively lower base at 150k, no idea on total comp.. assumption was lower than fund B given AUM/IP (fund A’s AUM/IP was almost 2-3x that of fund B). Not to start a comp thread on an SM vs MM.. but MM obviously varies quite a lot under the right PM.. could be 0, could be much higher than what these SMs guided to me, etc. I was personally happier collecting a relatively stable paycheck at an SM vs swinging for the fences.


WLB: fund A’s expectation was ~60hrs/wk but generally seemed chill, fund B was a sweatshop. MM wlb varies depending on the PM but generally tough given performance expectations under constraints.

Strategy: varies from fund to fund.. fund A in my case had ability to hold long term, chase any asset class, any opportunity they liked. I very much preferred that vs being constrained at fund B or an MM. SMs also generally allowed me to stay a generalist which I preferred.


There’s no general right answer here.. which role is better for you depends on your goals and preferences.

 
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