Question on Expected Return

Doesn't expected return take into account the risk of an investment going badly? Just seems we are double counting risk when one says higher expected return is associated with higher risk, when that risk is already embedded in the expected return. Maybe I am over analyzing but if anyone could explain would be great.

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