SM AUM vs MM GMV - comparison
How do you compare SM AUM vs MM GMV? My thinking is SM AUM dollar is worth 7-8x MM GMV dollar (which makes sense as MM GMV is 7-10x levered on underlying)
SM AUM, $100mm = target 15% returns, 15% incentive plus 1.5% management is $4 million
MM GMV, $100mm, target 3% returns, 15% incentive is $500k
There are a lot of assumptions in this, and SM fees are coming down and MM payouts are going up. And ofc there are pods that can do HSD and SMs that are lower nets and can’t do 15%, but 3% and 15% seem like reasonably bogeys for a good (but not lights out) year target
So maybe 5-6x is the correct number. Also not fully sure how data/vendor/research costs are done in MM vs. SM which affects the outcome. Curious how people here translate them.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, your comparison between SM AUM and MM GMV is on the right track, but there are nuances to consider:
Leverage Differences:
Fee Structures:
Performance Expectations:
Cost Structures:
Translation Factor:
In summary, while SM AUM dollars are generally more "valuable" than MM GMV dollars due to higher return targets and lower leverage, the exact multiple depends on various factors, including fees, costs, and performance assumptions. Your 5-6x estimate is a solid baseline, but it’s important to adjust for specific fund dynamics.
Sources: Performance of the best PM’s at MM’s?, AM vs HF: The Business of Our Business, , How Does Citadel HF Make $28bn Revenue with $55bn AUM? Multi Manager Economics, LO to MM HF?
A few things off, but the idea is correct. At the SM, you have opersting costs to run the business. At $100M you likely are breakeven at best. At $500M = $7.5M Management Fee you may have $2-3M left over, theres quite a bit of operating leverage here. At a MM you will never receive any part of the mgmt fee as you know.
Performance Fee for the MM is usually 20% and can be higher. SM usually the first $100-300M you have a lot of seed deals, investors with weak fees/economics to get AUM started. Nobody really gets 1.5% and 15% money as the first couple checks. Also have to incorporate PMs non-fee paying capital.
Better example:
SM $500M * 1.3% Blended Mgmt Fee = $6.5M - $4M expenses = $2.5M Excess
SM 12% Return and 12% blended performance fee
=$7.2M performance = $9.7M total
MM $2B * 3% = $60M P&L with 20% performance fee $12M Total minus some above the line expenses = roughly the same.
So its likely more like 4x but the conclusion is the same
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