i found it actually helpful to have other people around you to bounce off ideas etc.
senior people amoung the plebe is annoying though. I've seen VP/mgrs who could have their own offices but prefer to be with the boys and sit in a cubicle. Their presence puts quite a damper on things though so it sucks.
Depends on the company. I've visited some firms where VP's had their own private, enclosed offices and others where Directors (not MDs, just Ds) were sitting out on the floor.
Nope. For starters, it's not a policy per se. It's based on how much space each office has available for the teams involved
Second I haven't visited even close to every firm. Not that many firms invite candidates up to visit the floors, so I couldn't tell you about every area.
Finally think about that. Am I REALLY going to dox myself just to satisfy you being curious about a relatively trivial point?
Dishing specific details about individual banks can quickly reveal your actual identity. Which I'm sure a lot of us at the junior level have no interest in because then we are limited in our ability to be candid in our responses.
With that being said, associates and above at firms I have worked for had offices for the most part. That varies by office though as some were still in cubes. I have a friend who got an office as an analyst because there was way more room than headcount.
To your prior point though, offices don't buy Bentley's, so why do you care?
I've been to companies where the C level execs sit on the floor with everyone else even though they have an office. I've been to firms where every employee including assistants have individual or shared offices. To me it seems like the OP wants to join a firm that will get him an office sooner thinking the bridge and tunnel girls (or boys?) will be falling all over him for it.
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It really varies from group to group more so than firm to firm at the big banks. It's all about how many offices your team is allocated relative to the number of mid-level and senior people in your group. It also varies by market cycle. When the economy goes down and banks lay off a bunch of people, more offices open up. I'd bet that in 2009 you had analysts occupying some offices at BBs. When the economy is doing well the banks hire a lot more people so there is a greater likelihood that even more senior hires may end up in a cube for at least a while. The number of offices are more or less fixed, but the headcount is always fluctuating.
S&T is completely different, and often people who have offices still have seats on the desk. When I was an analyst at GS we had a partner who sat two seats over from me.
In London its mostly MD and up that get's their own office.
Source: Have worked at 4 Investment banks
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i think associates get their own office.
No. At BBs, associates do not get their own office.
Generally, VPs have their own office, but I have seen a couple of places where they do not.
Of course it all depends on the type of firm.. I have seen boutiques small enough where even the analysts have their own office.
With all the work that analysts and associates have to do, not having your own office so you can actually get some work done must suck.
i found it actually helpful to have other people around you to bounce off ideas etc.
senior people amoung the plebe is annoying though. I've seen VP/mgrs who could have their own offices but prefer to be with the boys and sit in a cubicle. Their presence puts quite a damper on things though so it sucks.
Most shops have everyone in an office (associate and up).
I thought open door policy was in effect in most places at work. Where everone gets a cubicle.
Except that vps and MDs would get the corner and big cubicle
vp and up
there is one md that is simply the man and loves the pit. people actually act worse because he is there. hes that uncle everybody has.
At UBS LA, the associates are still in cubes.
At the BB I interned over the summer, only SVPs and MDs have their own offices. Associates and VPs have an office mate.
Which title onward gets you your own office? (Originally Posted: 12/17/2015)
I'd like to learn about the rules at various banks around titles and cubicles, titles and own offices.
For instance, is it true that Bank of America folk end up in their own office after Director level? And that VP's are still in cubicles?
I know of another firm where AVP and above end up in their own offices.
Any one care to shed some light on what the pecking order is at various large banks when it comes to getting your own office?
Depends on the company. I've visited some firms where VP's had their own private, enclosed offices and others where Directors (not MDs, just Ds) were sitting out on the floor.
Willing to share a mapping of firm names to their office-title policy
Nope. For starters, it's not a policy per se. It's based on how much space each office has available for the teams involved
Second I haven't visited even close to every firm. Not that many firms invite candidates up to visit the floors, so I couldn't tell you about every area.
Finally think about that. Am I REALLY going to dox myself just to satisfy you being curious about a relatively trivial point?
So why are you here.
Big difference between participating in discussions and doxxing myself.
So where's that Bentley at.
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Ive seen a number of elite botiques where associates have their own offices
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Dishing specific details about individual banks can quickly reveal your actual identity. Which I'm sure a lot of us at the junior level have no interest in because then we are limited in our ability to be candid in our responses.
With that being said, associates and above at firms I have worked for had offices for the most part. That varies by office though as some were still in cubes. I have a friend who got an office as an analyst because there was way more room than headcount.
To your prior point though, offices don't buy Bentley's, so why do you care?
At grad level I had my own office.
At director level, I sit in open plan. So do virtually all the directors I know.
OP, you seem to be looking for a pattern that is not there.
I've been to companies where the C level execs sit on the floor with everyone else even though they have an office. I've been to firms where every employee including assistants have individual or shared offices. To me it seems like the OP wants to join a firm that will get him an office sooner thinking the bridge and tunnel girls (or boys?) will be falling all over him for it.
It really varies from group to group more so than firm to firm at the big banks. It's all about how many offices your team is allocated relative to the number of mid-level and senior people in your group. It also varies by market cycle. When the economy goes down and banks lay off a bunch of people, more offices open up. I'd bet that in 2009 you had analysts occupying some offices at BBs. When the economy is doing well the banks hire a lot more people so there is a greater likelihood that even more senior hires may end up in a cube for at least a while. The number of offices are more or less fixed, but the headcount is always fluctuating.
S&T is completely different, and often people who have offices still have seats on the desk. When I was an analyst at GS we had a partner who sat two seats over from me.
Depends on the company. At ours, Executive VPs and above.
In London its mostly MD and up that get's their own office.
Source: Have worked at 4 Investment banks
I think it's dependent on the firm and the individual. In one of the firms I worked at, the partner sat on the floor with everyone else.
Where I did banking, it was associates and above in shared office, own office once you hit director.
Interned at a MM IB regional office where associates had their own offices.
Usually space dependent, but I've seen offices usually when people hit VP (and you share as a VP). But if there's no space, you're SoL
Is it possible as a quant to have one’s own private office working in a hedge fund? (Originally Posted: 09/13/2016)
My profile: I've just finished my PhD in computer science from a top-ranked US college with good publication record. I need a private office, or somehow isolated place, as I use speech recognition to work due to RSI. I have used speech relation for years and it doesn't increase my productivity (on the contrary).
Is it possible as a quant to have one’s own private office working in a hedge fund? (E.g. Two Sigma Investments, D. E. Shaw & Co., Jane Street Capital, Citadel LLC, …)
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