Evercore vs moelis
Non-diverse target, offers in hand at both places, both nyc m&a
In my mind, Moelis has done a better job of maintaining the independent advisory culture and still has the entrepreneurial, relationship-driven atmosphere to it. Evercore seems to be trending otherwise with regard to some of these aspects. I imagine comp is similar. Trying to get a sense for how their respective brand names stack up today and what exits look like for recent analyst classes. Also is consensus still that Moelis is meaningfully sweatier?
Congrats - both are great shops, but I'd say the EVR brand is stronger. Better deal experience, training, & exits. IMO, a firm saying it's "entrepreneurial" doesn't mean much in IB. In terms of sweatiness, you will get worked at either shop.
This is secondhand so take that as it will, but impression I got personally was that EVR is more group dependent. The sweatiest EVR groups (eg. tech) are likely to be even sweatier than Moelis, which is pretty bad all across the board but not super super bad (heard culture has improved slightly from what people think, assuming this is NY). But there are more chill groups at EVR too. On average probably the same in terms of how much you'll be grinding tho
If Moelis LA would be far tougher and would lean Moelis. For Moelis NY go to EVR.
Moe LA hyped to shit on this forum lol
Continuing the glorious line of UBS LA
Work at a BB in LA but I wouldn't call Moelis a hype around here
Can you clarify - are you saying Moelis LA is overhyped? If so, why?
Evercore is a lot bigger in terms of class sizes so you would have to network for group placements when you start FT, so experiences will not be consistent. Some groups can be sweatier than Moelis. Evercore is considered to be the more prestigious tho if that's your thing. Moelis is more like an upscaled Jefferies. Where you exit is more up to you, choosing EVR/Moelis would not make too much of a difference
Idk how public knowledge this is but moelis NY is finally switching to group placement over generalist as well at least for FT
Ye but how much does it matter if there are only 20 analysts total in NY. EVR have 60 in NY
So Evercore had a generalist internship and you are placed first day you start FT?
EVR maybe slightly edges Moe, I’d go for which ever place you preferred from the interviews.
Both are pretty close but personally would say Evercore edges out Moelis now that Moelis NY has lost the generalist M&A/RX selling point for juniors. Evercore has its own problems though.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of own problems do you mean?
There are multiple threads about "Evercore's Downfall" on here. But as a TLDR, culture varies drastically across groups with tech being one of the worse on the street. High senior churn last year to other EBs (Menlo's office is gutted). That said, deal flow is strong and consistent exits.
Some groups are extremely sweaty like Tech, Media, Industrials, IUR and Transpo.
Both are awesome places, congrats! I personally would prefer EVR as I really liked their culture - how they don't taboo people who are trying to leave, that was something that spoke to me a lot.
This is actually super close matchup, but would take EVR. Better exits, better culture, better seniors
Former Moelis associate here. Hours were definitely long but I wouldn't say we were more sweatier than any other banks. Seen friends at EVR/PJT/LAZ/PWP/JEF all work pretty similar hours, and we still got to go out for drinks on Friday nights every now and then! We also all landed on decent buyout shops so opportunities are pretty similar I'd say!
Curious but are BB/EB hours exaggerated? Is it really 9am-2am everyday consistently working 80% of the day? What would the average work week be in terms of hours and how many "true hours" you are working. It seems like everyone says theyre grinding 85-90 hours but working entire time is almost impossible weeks on end like that
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