Guidelines at VP Level

Ignore title - VP3 at MM IB. See VPs getting shit on a lot in these forums and frankly have seen some live instances that validate the hate. Having said that, wanted to post some of my quick thoughts about what I think works. Feel free to add to and / or monkey shit on these but thought this was more productive then shit talking at least.

  1. Deadlines - Artificial deadlines are annoying but basically a must to assure things are getting done. However, the late Saturday comments that you need before EOD are probably not necessary. Plan ahead to minimize weekend work and coordinate with MD on reasonable timing. Sometimes weekends are unavoidable but do your part to minimize. You will get so much more out of your juniors if you give a shit about protecting their Saturdays / sanity.

  2. Presentations / Work Product - It used to drive me insane when my VPs would flesh out a secondary / tertiary topics with 10 new pages that all end up in the appendix when 1 or 2 thoughtful pages will do. Your MDs are not impressed with your random slides but will appreciate addressing secondary topics concisely yet effectively. It’s also less for juniors to do and you to review. Be efficient.

  3. Pushing back on MDs Requests - To put this one simply, you are not adding value by being a yes man to every request. Real value add comes from new thoughts, modifying / streamlining their thoughts or cutting waste. A senior banker put it to me this way “If you want to demonstrate you are ready for D level, you’ll need to show the MDs an ability to sell them on your ideas / approach. That’s almost the same skillset required to source clients.”

  4. Level of Involvement - You have to constantly re-calibrate when / to what degree you need to get into the weeds. The biggest factor is deal team competence. If your team is not good, guess what you need to roll up your sleeves as this deal falls squarely on your shoulders. On the flip side, let the star performers run and encourage them to take on more responsibility. In my experience, if you implement the first 3 items the deal team competence tends to take care of itself as the better performers will actually want to work with you.

Final thoughts (could keep going but this is getting to be too long of a read) - juniors are generally young and impressionable. They are constantly picking up on senior bankers’ work habits, thought process, social interactions, etc. and subconsciously mirroring some traits (some of you may not want to admit this but it’s human nature.) Further and Contrary to popular opinion about Gen Z, they actually crave feedback / direction (at least the IB sub-set of them anyway) because the alternative is anxiety driven by ambiguity of not knowing where they stand. In other words, if you want the juniors to operate at a certain baseline you should explain to them how you think about things, how you check things, why this analysis needs to be different, etc. and give them regular feedback along the lines of “Good job Y task and now I want you to work on X going forward.” To be clear, you cannot fix every issue and raw talent plays a role but always bear in mind that the juniors performance is somewhat a reflection of you…

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Here’s a breakdown of effective guidelines for VPs in Investment Banking, based on the most helpful WSO content:

  1. Deadlines:

    • Artificial deadlines are necessary to ensure progress, but avoid unnecessary last-minute weekend requests.
    • Plan ahead to minimize weekend work and coordinate with MDs on reasonable timelines. Protecting juniors' personal time, especially weekends, fosters better morale and productivity.
  2. Presentations/Work Product:

    • Avoid overloading presentations with unnecessary slides or excessive detail.
    • Focus on concise, thoughtful content that addresses secondary topics effectively. This reduces workload for juniors and ensures MDs appreciate the efficiency.
  3. Pushing Back on MD Requests:

    • Being a "yes man" doesn’t add value. Instead, demonstrate your ability to refine, streamline, or improve MDs' ideas.
    • Show readiness for Director-level responsibilities by selling your ideas and approaches to MDs, a skill that parallels client sourcing.
  4. Level of Involvement:

    • Adjust your involvement based on the competence of your deal team.
    • For weaker teams, roll up your sleeves and take charge. For stronger teams, delegate and empower them to take on more responsibility.
    • Implementing the first three points often leads to better team performance, as top performers will want to work with you.
  5. Mentorship and Feedback:

    • Juniors mirror senior bankers' habits and behaviors, so set a strong example.
    • Provide clear direction, explain your thought process, and offer regular feedback.
    • Gen Z juniors, contrary to stereotypes, value feedback and direction to reduce ambiguity and anxiety.
    • Regularly communicate what they’re doing well and areas for improvement to help them grow.

Final Thought: The performance of juniors often reflects the leadership and guidance of their VP. By fostering a supportive, efficient, and feedback-driven environment, you not only improve team output but also build a reputation as a strong leader.

Sources: How can we do better?, New VP struggles - asking seasoned VPs for help, Investment Banking Seniors are Terrible Managers, Q&A: Vice President - European BB Investment Banking (Industrials), How can we do better?

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