Have you ever been yelled at in IB?
Just got yelled at and not sure how to take it. I thought I had thick skin but I feel like because she (MD) attacked my work quality, I feel like my self worth depleted
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That's pretty unprofessional and reflects poorly on her. Don't take it too hard OP. Self-reflect on the particular issues she had with your work product and improve on them but don't let this affect your self-worth bro. You've got this
“Nah more like chewed out, I’ve been chewed out before” - LT. Aldo Raine, Inglorious Basterds
You’re fine, It’s not like you killed a hostage or anything.
Do you know why you were yelled at?
I have gotten yelled at in S&T, and you just have to not give a shit. Easier said than done, but if you truly don't care and move on, people will actually respect you and it won't matter. Don't let it get to you and carry over to your work going forward or you could get caught in a rut.
Just say "got it, I'll fix it" and move on. It's not personal.
I’m worried that from now on, they’ll think all my work is shit or I’m lazy
Yelled at like screamed at or spoken to with a stern and raised tone? Very big difference. Screamed at is obviously unprofessional but if it was the latter then she was providing feedback so you stop f**king up.
I've been shit on before a few times yeah, all it really did was piss me off and make me want to not fuck up again, hunker down, triple check your shit, learn and move on. I was pretty fucking bad about little nits and details in decks the first few months I started, so they kicks in the ass have helped me improve. Use it as fuel and don't crawl into a shell, own up to the mistake and just fix it and nobody will give a shit the next day. I've learned to not let any of this shit get to you personally, learn how to provide good work to the best of your ability and if you get shit on here and there, who gives a fuck, pick yourself up say it'll be fixed and learn from it. I'm a 22 year old dipshit making 140k, knowing this I can take a little shit from my fuck ups, I don't give a fuck. Its a high pressure job alot of the times but you can't let it consume your life and psyche. Not sure how many feel my sentiments but its seemed to work for me so far.
If a superior yells/screams at you, it is much more of a reflection of them than a reflection of you.
That's just my opinion, I can't imagine yelling at someone below me for making a mistake in a pitch book or really any work product - mistakes happen and yelling almost always has a negative effect on the person it is being inflicted on.
I've had a few MD's yell before - in my opinion, it was clearly 1 of 2 things: They have a huge superiority complex (tons of people in this industry do), or they are really insecure about their ability to manage and put together a good work product and take it out on their analysts/associates.
I always walked away from those situations having significantly less respect for those individuals, and honestly caring less about the work product I delivered them. To each their own though - some people get motivated by that, I do not.
Totally agree here. I just can’t perform well if I’m constantly being berated. You just don’t want to do great work for assholes. Also - there’s a way to speak to someone and communicate with them. Yelling and frustration is never the answer. Just results in bad chemistry between both parties.
Was this directed at your work or at you as a person?
Huge difference IMO. If directed at work, suck it up and forget it. It happens. It's a high pressure and we all have a bad day at some point.
If directed to you as a person i.e. actively insulting you, don't forget it. Clearly state that this is not correct and extremely unprofessional but never EVER yell/insult back. You win if you don't get angry because she has to apologize. If she doesn't apologize, look for a different group/exit. Wouldn't want to work with someone like that.
There is no reason to raise your voice and scream at a junior colleague or any colleague for that matter. This is banking, not war. If someone continues to fuck up just let them go. If it’s their first time, use it as a teaching lesson and treat them how you would want to be treated. Don’t be an asshole and don’t put up with assholes. I had a nightmare MD at my first bank. I made a lateral move at the 1.5 year mark and couldn’t be happier.
Fuck her right in the pussy, that'll show her.
Lmao, someone made this same exact comment, it got 7 bananas, and then taken down. Keep the monkey shit going, I enjoy it.
Yes. As a 37 year old director, my MD would constantly yell at me. He would tell me things like “you’re a fucking child,” “nobody likes you,” etc. he was the worst person I ever worked for, in an industry that is notorious for bad people to work for.
It was particularly galling because I left a top tier firm, took a drop in title, and a 40% drop in salary to join him because I wanted to make a shift in industry focus.
Yeah I've been screamed at a few weeks on the job - for not knowing how to run a full M&A model. Really need to evaluate where I'm working.
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