Help Valuing A Very Negative Company

Currently working on valuing a very indebted retail company for potential takeover and having serious troubles. Operating Income is negative, EPS is negative, Net Income is negative, EBITDA is negative and jumping all over the place, Retained Earnings is negative (and growing), Cash & CE is negative, Revenue is shrinking.

Done some public comps so far (this has gone reasonably well, quite a few similar companies), tried to put together a DCF but it just throws back implied share prices of 0 for every sensitivity value.

So yea, how do you value a company where almost everything is negative other than just public comps or saying "its worthless". Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks

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As a takeover target, this company isn't worth much unless there is a plan in place to improve operations. Extend your DCF until you capture that plan: improving margins, cuttting capex, etc and eventually getting to positive CF. You can use industry comps to get an idea of what is reasonable for the industry. If someone is trying to pitch you 30% FCF on retail, you can know what that is related to other companies in that space.

Does the plan contemplate cramming down on existing creditors? Be sure to model that in if so.

Don't go terminal on your DCF until you have achieved some sort of steady state contemplated by the turnaround. If the value is still 0 or negative, you should seriously revisit this as an investment opportunity.

NOLs can get tricky, but you may need to model tax savings from NOL carryforwards.

 

You don't value it because it is worth less then a nickle in my pocket.

But in reality what Darkpool said are several ways to do it.

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