I’m balding. Advice? Istanbul awaits?
So I recently completed a 30 day water fast and my once Lucious hair is fucked. It’s all thin and horrible. My dad started losing hair mid 20s and even my mom has thin hair. Do I go to Turkey already?
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Come on man…Bezos? D-Sol? Dana White? Sins? (Probably) your VP? You’re one of the chosen ones! Own it and get that new Gillette 7series all Braun NFL edition!
I can’t be bald tho. I’d be known as the bald analyst.
And it’s not like I’m a made guy yet, ima be eating shit for the next 10 years and be bald…
And what about the girls man.
I heard Turkey was a gorgeous country as well.
My confidence is shot…
Also started receding young. Started Finasteride/Minoxidil and have been noticing great progress 3-4 months in. No side effects, other than I know that my hair is cooked if I stop taking it
Well this gives us a bunch of insights on what you prioritize, having a good hairline is what makes you that many times more confident, then look at it as an investment, if you're confident, you can produce better results and feel great as a byproduct
Spot on. Plus, it will probably do amazing things for you career.
Not relevant to the hair question but how many pounds did you lose during your 30 day water fast. I do 3 days on/off water fast and lost around 20lbs. Was thinking of doing something extreme for 15/30 days. Were you able to work while fasting?
The month before the day I started my internship was when I ended my 30 days and tbh I would give it a go but there’s a couple things that could easily be a problem.
Insomnia, I couldn’t sleep for my life days 20-30. 0 predictability when I did
Any health issues or feeling tired. I would go for it with an open mind and a long goal and do it unless my body told made me stop which you should if you don’t feel good. Because you really should be feeling amazing post day 4, if done right.
But yeah a imo the first 3-4 days of a fast are truly difficult after that as long as you make sure you taking the right electrolytes(magnesium, calcium, potassium, sodium, multivitamins) at the right amounts, it was relatively easy. I failed to get to 3 days like 10 times but the first time I reached it, I reached 30.
Before fast I was around 190-195, post fast I got to 160. My skin improved like crazy, any acne I had disappeared(which I had quite a bit of what I thought was hormonal acne on my jawline), my skin looked glowy, I felt 10x better physically and mentally. My face looked a lot better. Saw an immense increase in the quality and quantity of girls I was getting with. I believe long fasts are the best medical treatment there is it’s just down it doing it right and having the discipline. So yeah I would go for it until something stopped you, which if you don’t botch something, nothing should go wrong.
ALSO, the mental clarity that fasting provides is the greatest thing ever. Just do it and by day 10 you’ll think and focus and function like never before. It’s like what ashwaganda and all those brain pill companies try to make themselves out to be.
My fast+ return offer made my life stock go big up because b4 that I was lowkey a fat salvia+cart addict getting mid in the areas that matter. Back then if you ever needed anything in my area, I had you. I had crazy 98 percent weed carts. But now I'm back in church and eat really healhy ngl.
Bless...
Does vaping increase hair loss? If so how does one do finance without
I suggest against water fasting, at least I couldn't handle that. I have some sugar/insuline problem apparently, but just water made me feel extremely sleepy and diizzy and had a bad headache every time I tried. So at least choose a relaxed weekend if anyone wants to try that out.
Thanks for the detail info. In my experience, once I pass the first 36-48 hours then it gets bit easier to go on for longer. I got the same results from just 3 day intervals - less fatigue in the morning, skin glowing, and just felt more energetic during the day. I also noticed that once I started fasting I lost appetite for fast food or anything that is just sugar/fat heavy.
Congrats on the return offer!
Curious to hear more. Are you able to work out (typical weightlifting in gym) at all during the fast?
At 160lb? I find that hard to believe, if you were overweight at 190-195lb you can't be more than 5'10. A 160lb 5'10 guy is not going to be getting with many girls, especially past college which you are.
Start propecia / finastaride asap
Get on Finasteride asap, maybe wait 1-2yrs with minoxidil to capture the full regrowth potential of Finasteride. If you are not satisfied, replace Finasteride with Dutasteride once a week or switch to Dutasteride entirely. Give it a couple of years to see if you can tolerate the meds and capture their full potential. Then consider a Transplant if necessary. You will have to take fin either way for the rest of your life so the non-transplanted won’t fall out. Don’t worry about side effects, it is vastly overstated and Post-Finasteride Syndrome isn’t real. Check out the Hair Cafe YT-Channel for more info.
What’s good with dutasteride? Is it better? I have a full set of hair but want to preemptively take steps.
Dutasteride is just more effective in suppressing DHT, Finasteride should be enough if you don’t have acute hair loss
Am I reading this right? You had good hair, did a water fast and now you have bad hair? Why don’t you just stop the fast and focus on being healthy? For what it’s worth I had some hair loss earlier in the year (little sleep, bad food etc due to a deal) and after 3-4 months + monox it’s coming back pretty well. I think just focus on health, sleep, good food should do most of the trick without having to do anything more drastic really
youre right went a little extreme with the fast but it was crazy beneficial. 1 thing tho, would "completed 30 day fast" look good/impressive on a resume or would I look dumb?
Would be bad judgement to put it on
well, if you messed up your hair for life just to lose 30lb for a few months (weight will go back up once you start eating like before again), then it's probably not "crazy beneficial". plus, loss of hair may be just the visible aftermath of something else going wrong with the body. but maybe your hair will get to its previous state once you start eating normally?
Istanbul awaits indeed. They're actually probably better than people that do hair transplants in the states.
I took two weeks off as an associate for this and four months later I had a full head of hair.
Give it some thought. Maybe finasteride works for you but I'd rather be bald than chemically castrated
did you let your guys know before you left and what was the reaction like when you got back? And is there any clinic you would recommend?
Fuck no lol. People don't notice gradual changes over several months when they see you everyday. If anyone noticed they never told me
You just need enough time off for it to heal enough to not be noticable. Also you'll look like garbage for the first 2 months
I went to hair of istanbul
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Lift weights
Rosemary oil twice a day. Equivalent to 2% topical monoxidil. But without the side effects.
Going through some hair loss now. Been on nutrafol pills for almost 4 months, I don't think they are helping. Bought a redlight therapy helmet two weeks ago and am feeling pretty good about it - will follow up with results in a few months. Chose to try redlight vs min / fin b/c my brother had nasty side effects from min / fin.
What's the Turkey thing?
Hair transplant.
MCAN in Turkey did wonders for my hair. It'll change your life bro. It was an easy procedure and they put you in a 5 star hotel all built into the price of the package. They also provide all transporation from airport, clinic, hotel, etc. Was like $2.5k and now my hair line is back. Was so bad before hand.
Carnivore Diet. Regrew my moms hair. SUPER high fat like 80% of calories is key. Endogenous collagen production
Just curious, how did a random Levantine place like Istanbul become the global capital of cosmetic medicine
People underestimate turkey, especially Istanbul like crazy. If it was managed well and was in the eu, it would be a t1 country.
I recently started using Divi products on my hair and have seen the thinning subside and actually reverse in some places. You can get it online and at a lot of common retailers. Would highly recommend.
For context am in my early 20s.
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Anorexic girls can lose their hair. Your hair needs lipids. Maybe it will grow back once you're eating.
Is one actually eating anything on a 30-day fast? I don't know much but if you're basically eating zero calories for so long isn't that just starving yourself. I'd have to imagine that anyone doing this for pure weight loss purposes will just quickly regain weight once they are eating again and probably mess up your metabolism in the process. I can see a couple day fast to let the system rest but what is the point of such long fasting? Honest question.
valid question and you’re right if someone is going into a fast taking 0 electrolytes(mg,sodium,calcium,potassium) then yes they would be in the hospital by day 20 or failed by day 2. That’s what differentiates fasting and starving, the prep and planned aspect. It’s not like I woke up and decided, “yeah I’m not eating for 30 days.” I researched, got everything I need and build upon shorter fasts for about 2 months.
Me personally I regained about 5 pounds and that evened out after about 2 months of my new diet at the time because fasting for that long changes ur relationship with food and long term diet post fast. I worded it badly in the title making it seem like I fasted but then my hair was ruined. In reality it was probably going downhill and fasting probably didn’t help it.
There’s clinics that are fully committed to planned 40 day fasts because if not botched there really isn’t much to go wrong.
This is false, according to my experience. You said "f someone is going into a fast taking 0 electrolytes(mg,sodium,calcium,potassium) then yes they would be in the hospital by day 20 or failed by day 2. That’s what differentiates fasting and starving, the prep and planned aspect."
Not true. I did 28 days, and twice did 15 day fasts, and more 5 day fasts than I can count - all on water-only by design. So no, you would absoltuely not be in the hospital by day 2 or day 20. Case in point - the True North health clinic, run by physicians in Santa Rosa, California, has fasted thousands of people, all on a water-only fast, and does not believe in supplementation. Water-only.
Second, Starvation and fasting are technical terms, and you've provvided misinformation. The difference between fasting and starvation is body fat content, and has nothing to do with supplementation. If one goes below a certain low. body fat percental (I think it's 4% but I'm not certain) then food deprevation would cause the body to enter starvation. Starvation is defined as "Starvation is a severe deficiency in caloric energy intake, below the level needed to maintain an organism's life." If you have fat reserves, then even a no-food water-only fast would not lead to starvation. Your body simply uses the fat it has saved up to fuel its funciton, and your body goes on living without shutting down organs.
Case in point - Minnesota Starvation-Recovery Experiment in WWII, conducted by the University at the behest of the US government. That was a study in true starvation, in which normal / lean students were deprived of food for extended periods of time, in order to induce true starvation. Contrast that to the case of Angus Barbieri an obese man who fasted for 382 days. His fat reserves gave him plenty of calories to work off, and he never entered starvation.
Everyone is suggesting minoxodil/propercia, but maybe you just shouldn't do a water fast again. Your hair needs nutrition. Go back to eating normal food and it will come back.
If alopecia runs in the family, my advice for you is to go see a dermatologist. The derm I went to see prescribed me a formula that my pharmacist prepares for me (the formula combines oral minoxidil + finasteride in one pill). Been taking it for 9 months and my hair has never looked this dense (and on a personal note I haven't noticed any problems down there... due to the finasteride you know).
Same here dude. I am starting my full time job in a year and honestly when its time to go i’m just shaving that shit. Not tryna look like a lollipop dropped on a carpet. I don't think many people care tbh and just gotta have confidence with it.
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