MS Menlo Update?

Interested in the group... wanted any updates on culture, hours, deal flow, and exits. The "MS Menlo is going to shit" post seems a little scary. Was wondering if it is accurate or just a salty intern that didn't get a return offer.

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Have a friend from MS Menlo and know a bit about the group. I also used to work at MS but at another coverage group.

MS Menlo Tech is by far the strongest industry group at MS, and the toughest group to break into at MS along with MS M&A. Their deal flow has always been insane and they're working on some huge mandates (public company sell-sides, divestitures, large-cap strategic buy-sides, etc.). After the massive senior exodus at GS TMT, MS Menlo is now arguably the single best banking group on the West Coast.

However, the group has a very intense culture and will work you extremely hard. Hours are by far the worst at MS and the worst among tech banking groups. The seniors at MS Menlo will not hesitate to blow up your weekend at 2am on a Saturday, and culture is very sharp elbowed from top to bottom. 

All that said, you can exit to pretty much anywhere after an analyst stint at MS Menlo. Most of the MS Menlo analysts in the past tended to self-select into tech-related exits such as tech PE at a MF/UMM, or top-tier tech growth/VC shops. Exits to generalist or non-tech MF PE are also more than doable if that's what you want, as MS Menlo is one of the most famous banking groups across all of IB

 

My top target sends someone to MS Menlo each year and I've heard much of the same about this group. 

This is THE group to join as an analyst if you're interested in tech banking. Like you said, they are now a clear favorite in tech banking over GS TMT due to the senior departures at GS, and they also run much leaner at the junior level than GS. They probably have the most deal flow per analyst out of any group on the street.

WLB is non-existent at MS Menlo as a result, and the mid/senior bankers tend to expect the juniors to run all stages of deal execution by themselves with little guidance. Hours at MS Menlo are much worse than the likes of GS TMT, MS M&A, and GS FIG. Culture is toxic if not absolute dogshit. 

 
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This is THE group to join as an analyst if you're interested in tech banking. Like you said, they are now a clear favorite in tech banking over GS TMT due to the senior departures at GS, and they also run much leaner at the junior level than GS. They probably have the most deal flow per analyst out of any group on the street.

i feel like you’re forgetting another tech bank that may have more deal flow per analyst

 

Have a friend from MS Menlo and know a bit about the group. I also used to work at MS but at another coverage group.

MS Menlo Tech is by far the strongest industry group at MS, and the toughest group to break into at MS along with MS M&A. Their deal flow has always been insane and they're working on some huge mandates (public company sell-sides, divestitures, large-cap strategic buy-sides, etc.). After the massive senior exodus at GS TMT, MS Menlo is now arguably the single best banking group on the West Coast.

However, the group has a very intense culture and will work you extremely hard. Hours are by far the worst at MS and the worst among tech banking groups. The seniors at MS Menlo will not hesitate to blow up your weekend at 2am on a Saturday, and culture is very sharp elbowed from top to bottom. 

All that said, you can exit to pretty much anywhere after an analyst stint at MS Menlo. Most of the MS Menlo analysts in the past tended to self-select into tech-related exits such as tech PE at a MF/UMM, or top-tier tech growth/VC shops. Exits to generalist or non-tech MF PE are also more than doable if that's what you want, as MS Menlo is one of the most famous banking groups across all of IB

In addition to long hours, could you elaborate on bad culture and everyone being sharp elbowed? I get the big picture but can't imagine in detail what that's like

 
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Culture is tough for sure. Anecdotally, heard that all the MBA associates there are Asian hello kitties. Not sure what is the implication of that

 
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any insights into ms menlo? specifically, whats their coverage, hours (dogshit i know but how dogshit, any kind of protection)?

 

anyone see the WSJ article about Michael Grimes potentially leaving to work for Trump's administration? Any ideas on what this would mean for MS Menlo?

 

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