Positives About UBS IB for Juniors?

Genuinely, are there any? Are exit ops cooked for juniors, as they rot in their shoebox SoHo apt grinding a pitch that will never see the light of day? Since the firm is so shit, do they at least reap the benefits of a relatively positive WLB? Is there any hope?

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Has to be group-dependent. Know a few juniors who have recently lateraled to better banks and others who are signed to/going to very solid PE shops (all UMM/MM shops) from UBS. 

 

New seniors have made deal flow worse and WLB even worse as they try to play catch up. Hard to do both but they have

 

There is literally no upside or silver lining. If I could go back in time, I would not do this again. I am trying to leave ASAP. 

 
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The only positive is knowing that nothing is permanent, one day my experience here will end, one day UBS will cease to exist, and one day the heat death of the universe will cause everything to be a dark, cold, infinite void. 

 
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Some groups are fine in terms of flow (maybe not at the present moment given UBS's main focus in LevFin/Sponsors clients aren't doing much since the LevFin markets are done; but generally true looking at things since start of 2024), UBS just suffers from the fact that the vast majority of groups do absolutely nothing, and every single dollar of flow comes from 4-5 groups.  UBS has, at least the good groups,  objectively good exits relative to firm performance. Many MF PC exits from LevFin/sponsors and a decent size of UMM PE exits from those groups + Industrials over the last couple of years. I truly don't think exits are the issue; if you can't exit from UBS at least from the top or even mid-tier groups (might be different if in a group with no flow at all, like tech or RELL), the issue is undoubtedly you. I have had analysts exit throughout these past years into seats that they were very interested in, and exits very rarely get worse for banks. 

Edit: downvoting doesn't make what I said wrong... as much I shit on UBS, your own career is your own responsibility. If you can't exit from a UBS decent group, I can guarantee for sure based on past analyst outcomes over the last few years; that the problem is you.

 

Untrue, UBS has fired low-performing analysts over the past year or so. Can't get an A2A if people are fired before they reach the end of their analyst years.

 I think the only real positive of UBS is that exits are better than the actual performance in the US, at least for the top groups. I cannot speak for other groups, but I know kids who interviewed for MF PE seats, and a few are going to UMM PE shops, which hasn't gotten worse over the years and frankly seems like it's been slightly better to the same outcomes for UBS kids post-merger at least from my perspective. Ik this isn't what the UBS analysts on this forum probably from the worse groups want to hear, but just my experience as a senior who's seen juniors recruit. 

 

UBS Tech’s most likely exit opp for associates is severance / unemployment. But better than continuing to work there!

 

UBS tech is just a social experiment in how much money MV can waste before getting fired. The group quite literally has no flow and actively harms UBS's other groups because it sucks up bonus pools given how big the team is despite their lack of flow.

 

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