Smartest billionaire aside from Jim Simons.
Who do you think is the smartest billionaire in the world . Be it in terms of Academic acclaim or overall impressive intelligence
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Justine Tobin
Elon musk by a lot in terms of knowledge, getting right team in place, and strategy choice.
warren buffet
tech billionares are 100x smarter than finance billionares who got lucky with raising giant funds and then gambling using leverage
I'd say tech billionaires also get lucky with their startups.
I don't think there is a billionaire that would say there is no luck invoved in them being a billionaire
I'd say Gates. Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Page come to mind too
I'm sorry, but Zuck created a Hot'or'Not and MySpace killer by using fast follower strategy and buying a couple killer apps before anyone else knew what his strategy was. Those accomplishments coupled the Sheryl Sandberg hire and turning down Yahoo's offer warrant a spot in the "Shareholder Value Creation Hall of Fame" but he doesn't hold a candle to Gates, Allen, Page, Brin, Ellison, Benioff, Jobs and Bezos off the top of my head in tech world.
Elon is a great mention. All the obvious reasons apply there.
I'm surprised Bill Gates isn't the first mention.
I've met several billionaires in finance. Most don't have an academic pedigree to obsess over; they went to a good school, got into the industry, found a thing to manipulate, and were wildly successful at it.
Completely agree
100%. Gates is solving the world's biggest problems - infectious diseases, energy, sanitation, education, sustainable food / clean meat. Listening to him talk about the future is like listening to an oracle telling you what's going to happen, and then it does. He dwarfs Jim Simons (whom I admire, but you can't put these two on same footing).
Also admire Musk who has revolutionized 3 different industries already.
I have massive respect for Zuck, but mostly for his charitable work and intellect, not for the company he built.
Clifford Asness is a sharp lad
He's a bit arrogant but I like Chamath. Certainly very articulate.
Slumdog billionaire.
water water water
In finance: Warren Buffet/Charlie Munger Howard Marks Seth Klarman Steve Schwartzman
A lot of tech founders are definitely luckier than smart. Right time, right place more often than not. Have met a few with 9/10 figure companies and was kind of underwhelmed every time.
Do you think this has something to do with personality of many tech founders? My impression of a lot of people in tech is that they're less likely to be poring over company documents/expanding their "macro knowledge base", while that's what I imagine Marks did all day ever since his bschool days . Or I guess another way to put it is what do you mean by underwhelmed? How well they can hold a conversation on what they think is going on in their sector and where the investment opps are? Would that also be related to the "explosive wealth" aspect of many tech founders--they earn a lot quickly and often don't have the same need to develop the same way of thinking as a PE investor who earns wealth over 20 years might?
I admire Howard Marks and all but without his letters and later his book how different is he than the other fixed income billionaires at PIMCO, TCW, DoubleLine, and maybe even Met West? He’d tell you himself Gundlach is WAY smarter than he is; that’s why he owns a big chunk of the firm and put them in business. Howard is basically a contrarian that runs tighter tracking error than say a Jeremy Grantham, and writes even better than Jeremy. I’d take Sam Zell and Byron Trott over Marks.
While some guys are toiling away in the office for decades, going through multiple heart-attacks and divorces to build a billion dollar fortune, some guys from Stanford made an app that deletes photos in 10 seconds, and practically became billionaires overnight.
From the looks of it, the chickens are gonna be coming home to roost shortly.
One trick ponies.
Elon
Have to go with Michael Milken. He created the high yield issuance market from nothing, financed the hostile takeover trend in the 80's, and had a huge role in the success of many other people (Ronald Perelman, Nelson Peltz, etc.) that have had a huge impact on finance and industry.
His charitable work after has been great as well. I still think it's bullshit what the SEC did.
Let's not forget about Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods
Donald Jacoby Trump.
He’s the smartestest. He went to Wharton you know. Wharton! Wharton is the best school for finance. Best like you’ve never seen before, I tell ya folks. It’s just so beautiful how best it is.
he got in because of affirmative action for people of orange color. Also daddy made some calls.
Michael Milken
John Overdeck ️
John Finlay
ok
I concur with your conclusion
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