Thoughts on Starting Investment Bank/M&A Advisory for my Company

Hi All,

Been a while since I’ve posted. I used to contribute a bit more, but I have been out of banking and PE for 3 years now so have less to add recently.

I’d like to get collective thoughts, for those generous enough to share, on an opportunity I have to re-enter the space.

I left banking at BB for small PE firm (great experience I loved working with those guys), went into private credit for a mega fund’s credit team to reduce hours but stay in the game/get deal exposure. I then left to one of their portfolio companies, which is a tech enabled service in the M&A space, to lead business development for a large region of the country. My clients are senior folks at PE firms, M&A teams at law firms, and CEO’s and my day to day is effectively a high level sales job (not much different than banking at the senior level honestly).

Without getting into too much detail, I have the option of pitching to the Board that we should start an M&A advisory practice that I will head up and grow. There is a competitive advantage with our existing core offering and they would complement one another. I have CEO and my boss’s thumbs up, if I want it, but it does need board approval (and we are PE backed hence my initial involvement with the Co. so this is not a guarantee but is in line with their box).

I had run my own investment banking process historically and had to leave one of my jobs to do it, and it was a fantastic experience. But I didn’t see myself continuing with it to compete with the boutiques in my 20’s. My only competitive advantage then was coming from IBD, I knew what sucked and didn’t suck about the job. And frankly you remove some of the culture issues and reduce hours (or find ways to make hours tolerable) you could make the business fun. My idea would be to leverage this Company’s brand and channel access across the M&A landscape to build a new advisory business. 

I’d also use our company’s tech oriented culture to attract talent - WeWork office with couches / games / free beer with full work remote options, MD’s help analysts if needed (ie on vacation), junior folks directly participating in deal fees and getting paid when we get paid as opposed to a bonus cycle, etc. and we build an investment bank that is fun and rewarding to work for. I envision a team where we all like the actual work of IB but only to a certain limit. Of course there will be moments of grind based on real client demands/deals, but the hope is that we are all comfortable with each other and a flat structure (where the analyst is not some bitch that gets sent work to turn around same night, but on par with me as MD but just does a different function on the deal most times). If you need to smoke some weed to break up the night and get back at it and you’re actually more productive, don’t need to hide it (funny/stupid example but I mention it because I knew another analyst in my day that would light up and come back to the office and grind out his best work, but feared that an MD would come back after a dinner or something and bring him into his office for a deal update and see him ripped). If you want to head out and meet some friends for a special occasion, me or someone else on the team will step up and help out. It’s literally a real team as opposed to these IB’s where effectively everyone is out for themselves. This is how WeWork actually built a fun culture and everyone made great money doing it (early on).

I have been out of banking for years now so it’s been some time since I remember how much I hated my life at the BB. My current role today is pretty amazing - I work very few hours a week, the hours I do work are oftentimes pretty fun for my personality (golfing, dinners, drinks, coffee, office presentations, talking to folks about their active deal/specifics that we need to know, pricing the service, working with internal teams to relay client feedback on our services etc.) and I’m making pretty good money (not banking money, but $350-$450k depending on how good of a quarter/year I’m having). I set my own schedule and wake up late most days, get plenty of gym or sports time, plenty of time with my wife. But I am getting to the point where I’m not learning anything new at all in my career and becoming more and more reliant on the Company and less and less marketable to PE or IB if I needed to go back. I feel like I may be losing touch with the technicals and I’m probably too old for a top MBA program for a pivot if I needed to. This team would give me a sense of purpose in my career; but also bring me back to banking and more specifically the pain of building a team from l scratch in banking which would be a drastic change in my lifestyle.

Reason I am coming to you all for thoughts is that you are all the demographic who will have the best insights and even the type of folks we would want to hire. I would give up my easy lifestyle to go bust my ass again if it meant building a team where people come to work with a smile on their face as opposed to being effectively coasting through my career. I certainly have the ability to do it. But would be interesting to hear thoughts from folks currently in banking and me leaving the situation I’m in to effectively come back to it (albeit in a different manner).

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I started a M&A practice in my 20s but it was not backed by any reputable firm so arguably was frustrating initially. 

I started a real estate M&A firm for a group of buyers my team were well connected to. Our buyers were large family offices that can buy up to $6B of real estate across US & Canada. They would consolidate many private REITS and private real estate funds. 

First 3 yrs of my M&A firm
1) I hired over 20 salaried Analysts with strong sales skills to be the group that will hunt for good real estate off-market.

2) I also hired a couple of traditional financial associates/analysts + Software developers for our underwriting and processing a deal to its finish line. 

3) I hired 2 MDs for a high salary. Their job was to find bigger portfolios to sell and strengthen the relationships with owners. 
4) I formed 2 offices (One in the US & One in Singapore) 

5) Our competitive advantage was the trust we had with the group of buyers who will buy $6B through us. 

As you can see, I was very much focused on growth 

How it all played out 

1) We maintain a profit margin of 58% 
2) Sold it to a large real estate management firm about 5 yrs since its inception for 7X of its average N.I. 

3) My job was to grow the firm and manage the team and network 24/7 with Owners only. 
4) We had a total of 6 MDs, 3 of those MDs were tasked with executing deals and the other 3 would mainly find new clients and some work with the Analyst team and etc. 
 


1) Short answer, Go for it. You can already see your career stagnating. By venturing off a new entity you will have a large leg up + some sweet equity in it too.
2) Getting clients and pitching why your firm is the one is hard and you need to focus a-lot more energy on the deal flow aspect because deal flow will be your M&A firm's life-blood!!!
3) Hiring a quality team is art and you don't have to be to go-to person to do it all. Build a team of guys/gals who can take care of each division of the M&A practice. 

4) Effectively using tech (proprietary and 3rd-party tech) will help of course but the real advantage will be how lean your team is and the control it brings you. 

5) Ownership of a newly built business can be a huge thing for you in your life. Think about it, when you're 60 and you look back, you can tell your grandkids how you built a company and became this self-made man. 
 

In short, BUILD THAT DAMN THING... Don't back out because of fear. Only back out if the business model doesn't work for you and your Company. 

 

Also note, I started the whole business by cold calling potential MDs and Analysts 

- I also paid and worked with a strong operations heavy Consulting firm to help me out.

- Flew to Singapore for half a yr to build the 2nd office. 
The first Year of this venture costed me 93% of total savings. It was insanely scary, I would sometimes get sweaty and minor panic attacks. 

The point is, you should take larger risks when you in your 20s, because you can reinvent yourself later and not be bogged down by debt and any other things that happen when you got a house, family, kids, parents in need of care, and etc, etc... 

 

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