Curious to know what your guys thoughts are on this. I know UBS IB has fallen off crazy and gets a ton of hate on here (rightfully deserved), but am wondering how DB somehow escapes all the criticism, seeing as they fall out of the league tables in both Europe and the US.
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DB IB feels like a legacy shop where the MDs can’t originate but still strut around like rainmakers. Whole platform’s slowly circling the drain while everyone pretends it’s 2007.
It’s better to take an offer from BMO, BNP, RBC, or Santander vs DB/UBS.
Said no reasonable person ever 😂
no one is taking any of those over ubs or db
How about Mizuho or KeyBanc Cleveland?
me when i lie:
Congrats on BNP!
DB is just not reinvesting enough in its IB division
They’re printing money and calling it ‘strategy’ while hoarding it at the top. Seniors protect their bonuses, not the business- juniors are just cheap labor they don’t want leveling up
The bottom of the BBs. They’re both riding brand legacy and have experienced a significant downturn in talent.
I don’t know much, other than they are both bad. People in my class who go to those banks are weird/unimpressive people.
Neither firm is as good as they used to be but both still have the legacy/BB name.
That being said UBS is definitely better than DB (obviously somewhat group dependent but generally). Can’t really think of many pros of DB aside from the Columbus circle office.
A lot of the reason UBS gets hate on WSO is because they try to be a top IB especially in the US (they said a few years back that they wanted to be top 6) but just failed in doing so. DB just doesn’t really invest too much into their IB anymore so they avoid a lot of the criticism.
DB is still a fairly good place to be. Just not in the US. In London they have several strong groups and in Germany they are only really behind JP & GS.
UBS is at least trying to grow and did some notable deals last year (Walgreens), DB is just down the drain. Would rather work for a firm that at least cares about americas IB, tho obv both are not ideal, etc
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