UCLA IB Placement

Hey everyone,

I’m considering UCLA and wanted to get some insights into IB recruiting from the school. A few questions:

  1. How strong is the pipeline to IB, especially for NYC roles?
  2. What are the key clubs that help with recruiting, and how hard is it to get into them?
  3. How is UCLA viewed in the industry for IB recruiting? Is it considered semi-target or more of a non-target?
  4. Overall, how tough is it to break into IB from here?

Would appreciate any insights from current students or alumni. Thanks!

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UCLA has been steadily improving its reputation in the finance world, particularly for investment banking (IB) recruiting. Here's what you need to know:

  1. Pipeline to IB, Especially for NYC Roles:

    • UCLA has placed students at top firms in NYC, including GS TMT, MS NY, JPM NY, and PJT, among others. While the school is more heavily represented in West Coast offices (LA and SF), students with strong resumes and networking efforts have successfully landed roles in NYC as well.
    • Historically, UCLA is considered a semi-target for IB recruiting, with a stronger focus on West Coast opportunities. However, its presence in NYC has been growing in recent years.
  2. Key Clubs for Recruiting:

    • The top finance organizations on campus include Bruin Asset Management (BAM), Bruin Value Investing (BVI), and Bruin Hedge Fund (BHF). These clubs have strong alumni networks and provide mentorship, technical training, and access to internships.
    • Getting into these clubs can be competitive, as they are highly sought after by students aiming for IB roles. Freshmen are encouraged to apply early, as it's easier to join during the fall quarter when expectations are lower.
  3. Industry Perception of UCLA:

    • UCLA is considered a semi-target for IB recruiting, particularly for West Coast offices. It has a strong presence in LA IB, with students frequently landing roles at top firms like Moelis LA, Houlihan Lokey, and Evercore Menlo.
    • The Sharpe Fellows program at UCLA is highly regarded and features some of the best resumes on campus. Students in this program receive excellent mentorship and are well-prepared for IB recruiting.
  4. Difficulty of Breaking into IB:

    • Breaking into IB from UCLA is challenging but achievable with the right preparation. Students are advised to:
      • Join finance clubs early and actively participate.
      • Network extensively with alumni and professionals in the industry.
      • Gain relevant experience through internships, starting with boutique firms if necessary.
      • Maintain a strong GPA (3.8+ is ideal, though 3.5 is the minimum threshold for most firms).

Overall, while UCLA may not have the same level of access as traditional East Coast targets, its growing reputation, strong alumni network, and robust campus resources make it a solid choice for students aiming to break into IB.

Sources: UCLA Investment Banking 2023, UCLA Undergrad for IB Recruiting, Los Angeles IB, Los Angeles IB SA Recruiting Mini-Guide, Los Angeles IB SA Recruiting Mini-Guide

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Hey, not sure if you've made your decision yet but I thought I would provide some insight here. I'm a current student at UCLA who landed an IB offer at a top investment bank in New York.

  1. We don't have much of a pipeline to NY in the sense that UCLA does not have designated recruiting captains/teams in most New York offices. However, that doesn't mean that we don't send a bunch of kids to great banks in NY every year, so I'd say the pipeline has gotten much stronger in recent years. We used to send almost everyone to LA banks a few years ago, but more recently, our placements have been split pretty evenly between NY and West coast banks. The pipeline to LA and SF has been and still is very strong.
  2. The key clubs that help with recruiting are Bruin Asset Management (BAM), Bruin Hedge Fund (BHF), Bruin Value Investing (BVI), and Bruin Investment and Trading Group (BIT). All of the clubs I mentioned have long and difficult recruitment processes meant to mimic actual IB interviews. The acceptance rate is around 5% across the board for all of them, and the process is not merit-based whatsoever. You'll find that a majority of people accepted into these clubs are already friends with the people making the decisions on who to accept, often because they are in the same frat or something similar. I have seen incredibly qualified people get rejected by these clubs, and incredibly stupid people get accepted. The clubs are not a measure of your capability to land an incredible offer in investment banking. And let me say as well, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE IN ONE OF THESE CLUBS TO GET AN IB OFFER. They will try and scare you into thinking that if you aren't in one of the clubs, your chances of landing an offer are zero, but that is not the case at all. Every year, kids who aren't in the clubs get amazing offers, often much better than many of the students who are in these clubs. So if you don't get in, don't think that your chances in IB are shot.
  3. It varies based on the geography. For LA and SF, we are definitely a target, especially LA where UCLA students fill the majority of the summer analyst classes. In NY, we have moved into the semi-target territory and are definitely on their radar, which is a much better position than we were in a few years ago.
  4. It is hard, but not much harder than any other school outside of the supertargets (Wharton, Harvard, etc.). What I've found is that every single person who is genuinely committed to breaking into IB from the moment they set foot on campus freshman year, and who are willing to grind and put in the work and the hours, does break into IB. UCLA is a great school that has solid recognition in the IB community, and if you're willing to put in the work, you will absolutely land a great offer. 
 

At usc and interesting to see that you guys have multiple clubs that have good placements and those who don’t make it in also place well. Here at USC we have one club that’s run by this psycho professor and if you’re not in it, it’s very difficult to get a good placement. Once you’re in the club it’s pretty easy but have heard it’s very difficult from friends who weren’t

 

I do agree that the club you're referring to at usc makes it pretty easy to land a top offer for those 60 or so that get in, but anecdotally, people outside it don't have that much of a harder time. For example, a couple of friends and I got many interviews from BB/EBs while not being in it (not all converted ofc, but the opportunity is still there and up to you to perform).

 

Thanks a ton for the helpful response—I really appreciate it. I just committed to UCLA and had one more quick question: how important are frats, if at all, when it comes to networking and club placement? Thanks again!

 

Currently at UCLA. The school does almost nothing to ensure your success professionally aside from offering things to pad your resume like William Sharpe & Ben Graham fellowships. The best part is that there are a plethora of networking  and internship opportunities in the LA area. Caveat here is that tons of kids have 6 internships by the time they are recruiting for junior summer, so it cancels out. If you come here, make sure to pound the pavement and know your technicals cause these kids are all big time hardos asking $10 depreciation one week into college. Girls are hot.

 

$10 in depreciation seems fair for week 1 in college that's post-hs grad activity.

 

I firmly disagree, but I guess that's why I didn't get into any of the clubs. 

 

It’s definitely at least semi for LA, a little weaker for SF, and NY is basically non-target/need to network a lot. Yea, a decent amount of people place, but that’s not because we’re a target, it’s because they work hard and network hella, so it’s self selective in a sense. There’s no dedicated “pipeline” as there’s barely to no OCR here. The “pipeline” are just cracked kids that can network and not be a bot. As for clubs, technically you don’t need to be in a club, but you basically do iykwim. They hook you up with summer internships the previous upperclassman did and also have a great network and also run the workshops. Also the business scene is pretty connected and you’ll find that a lot of the students in the clubs are also in workshop. Being in a regular frat/business frat helps but is not necessary either, clubs are more important IMO. Overall it’s okay for LA/SF, IB is not guaranteed even if you work hard but UCLA definitely gives you a shot, but if you’re looking for NY specifically, similar schools such as UVA/UMich/Emory/UNC would be better. Also, don’t be fooled, recruiting here is wayyy harder than at a true target like T10 privates unlike what the other guy said.

edit: also the girls here are mid dont listen to that other guy. USC girls are way hotter 

 

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