Will my gamble pay off?
My psycho classmate and I are applying at the same Canadian BB for a 1st year position. I applied with my real info, he took the rogue way.
Since he fails to see how retarded it is, I decided to bet $100 that he would get caught and blacklisted. But I'm kinda scared now that I have seen the sophistication of his plan.
He went completely wild and decided to forge the shit out of his application:
1) He claimed a near 4.0GPA and having been in the Dean's list, then forged his transcript using an excel model and the same pdf software as the uni to keep the meta data of the pdf intact.
2) He made up a 1 year internship at a small company owned by a family member of his. He pretended it was a 50 people boutique that offered financial services
3) He sent that family member a document full of projects inspired by case studies of valuations made by real world firms. That way, the guy has a fake reference that knows exactly what to say, what figures to mention etc.
4) He created a linkedIn page, bought fake followers, and set up a corporate website to make the firm look like a legit finance company.
5) Convinced a friend of ours who is club treasurer to serve as a false reference and claim my classmate was his predecessor. He's basically gonna use our friend's experience as his own.(Unverifiable because clubs only show current members on the website)
Am I about to lose my money? Can I count on background check firms to save my ass?
We're tight, but I'm gonna be so pissed if he actually pulls it off. What do you guys think?
What the fuck lmao
I know, he's a crazy-ass mf 😂
He deserves a job just for this dedication lmao. Better start trading some 0 DTE options to win that $100 back
Imagine doing all this for RBC
We just know you are the 'friend'
I don't need to, I have 6 months of actual experience. But I'll definitely lie in my future applications if he ends up succeeding.
He’s clearly the friend
real
This, kids, is why banks emphasize school quality and GPA. All the other bullshit is subject to major embellishment at a minimum and usually much worse than that.
I don’t know how it works in Canada with the regulatory bodies but in the US if your bank finds out you lied about your GPA they can report you to FINRA and end your career.
As much as I appreciate the feedback, I'm more interested in what might screw him in the interview process. If he gets hired and I'm not, I'll be hearing about it for the rest of my life.
The effort it took to plan all that may as well have just done it normally
He won’t get caught unless you report him.
I don't rat on my friends, that would be so fucked up (unless they had it coming)
If bro had just spent 1% of this effort on actually studying and networking, he would have already gotten an offer without forgery tactics.
Based approach though!
You're absolutely right. I'm really curious to see how that unravels 😂
Most likely way for him to lose is the GPA. Background check firms can pull those directly from the school (in the US at least), so doesn't matter that he forged his transcript as they would be going around him. The work & club experience he'll probably get away with.
Ok bet, I got a chance then! Is it 100% certain that they will verify his academics or do they only do it once in a while?
This dude is an absolute conman, he knows how to display morals, act "woke" etc... I expect he'll make a great impression on the interviewer.
Agree - the banks in Canada I applied to pulled my transcript from my university as part of the background check.
Also has he networked with anyone? I’d be surprised if he got an interview if no one knows him.
Did you apply in QC? Our school clearly says 3rd parties need permission from the applicants.
Idk if he networked, probably.
If he's doing all of this and risking everything, might as well shoot for something higher than IB. Tell him to come up with even more grandiose lies and start the next Theranos
“Your friend” is a dumbass. Transcripts are directly requested from schools. These are checked against unofficial ones.
This ploy could result in legal repercussions that will make a person unemployable in finance. Forgery is considered a crime of moral turpitude and will prevent any FDIC bank from hiring an individual plus make them ineligible for securities licenses. This effective ban lasts for 10 years before employers have discretion hiring an insane person with a criminal record.
I’m 80% sure you need to grant permission for GPA’s to get released through your school (could be wrong).
Haven’t done this myself but if a firm asked for permission to verify the transcript couldn’t the kid just wipe is hands clean and say he is taking another offer?
Obviously a much more risky maneuver if this isn’t the case.
Again, it's not me... I don't care what happens to him 5 years from now, I wanna know if he could be chosen over me, take my money, and be an insufferable jerk about it.
Is there any way he could get screwed during the recruiting process other than me snitching on him?
Reading your responses in the comments, it’s clear that you are trying to snitch on him by making this thread. You’re just being passive aggressive and petty about it. Either report him to the firm or don’t.
the work experiences will 100% clear but academics may not
Just read through this entire thread. There are one of two things that are true here.
1) OP is on Coke / adderall
Or
2) (more likely) OP is the “friend”
(maybe both)
What does being on coke/addy have to do with anything?
OP is definitely the friend loool
doing well at school would've been 100000x easier than dealing with this much mental illness lmao
He’s fucked when he’s asked for official transcripts (official by definition means sent from the uni without being opened by anyone)
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