Grad Scheme Vs. Summer Internship for MSc student

Hey all,

Would love some input here as I am completely confused as to what to do in my situation:

I have just graduated my bachelors (UK) and will be starting a relevant Masters (1-year, UK) this September. With applications opening up soon in IBD for both SA positions and Grad scheme positions which should I apply to (where I am limited to one)?

The main issue here is that I am not a penultimate year student but summer internships (from my understanding) are relatively easier to get in comparison to grad schemes so really my questions are:

How can I apply to SA positions that are for penultimate year students?

Do I need to write a later graduation on my CV?

If the banks see that I actually do not graduate at the time portrayed, will a potential offer be rescinded?

Any help would be super appreciated (especially if you yourself have gone through this exact predicament) as some grad schemes are starting to open (GS today for example) and want to apply as early as possible :) 

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know:

Applying for SA Positions as an MSc Student

  1. Eligibility for SA Positions:

    • Penultimate Year Requirement: Many banks require applicants for Summer Analyst (SA) positions to be in their penultimate year of study. As a one-year MSc student, you are technically in your final year, which complicates eligibility.
    • Workaround: To navigate this, you can indicate on your application that you are in your penultimate year. This might involve stating a later graduation date on your CV.
  2. Adjusting Graduation Date:

    • CV Adjustment: You may need to adjust your graduation date on your CV to reflect a later date, making it appear as though you are in your penultimate year. This is a common strategy used by students in one-year programs.
    • Risks: Be aware that if the banks discover the discrepancy between your stated and actual graduation dates, there is a risk that any potential offer could be rescinded. Transparency is crucial, and you should be prepared to explain your situation if questioned.
  3. Grad Scheme vs. Summer Internship:

    • Grad Schemes: These are typically more competitive and are designed for final-year students or recent graduates. They offer a direct path to full-time employment.
    • Summer Internships: Generally considered easier to secure than grad schemes, these internships can lead to full-time offers if performed well. However, they are primarily targeted at penultimate year students.

Recommendations:

  • Apply Early: Whether you decide to apply for SA positions or grad schemes, ensure you apply as early as possible. Some grad schemes, like those at Goldman Sachs, are already opening.
  • Network: Leverage your network and reach out to alumni or professionals who have gone through similar processes. Networking can provide valuable insights and potentially help you secure interviews.
  • Be Prepared: If you choose to adjust your graduation date, be ready to explain your situation during interviews or if questioned by the banks.

Conclusion:

Given your situation, applying for SA positions with an adjusted graduation date might be a viable strategy, but be mindful of the risks involved. Alternatively, applying for grad schemes directly aligns with your current academic status but may be more competitive.

If you have further questions or need more detailed advice, feel free to ask!

Sources: International Student - Chance of getting an IBD internship in London?, Smart or Stupid Strategy - going for SA position AFTER senior year?, SA Application Timeline, Final Year BSc applying for SA 2021 LDN, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/when-to-start-applying-for-2021-sa-sophomore?customgpt=1

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Getting into FT IB with 0 IB experience basically doesn't happen. It has happened and did happen in like 2021 when markets were kicking but that was a unique time and banks were hiring anyone with a pulse.

So basically assume, if you have to apply to a bank for FT as you are now, you're taking a moonshot.

You should go for SAs wherever possible. There are multiple banks that allow final years to apply with no need to do anything special. Do some digging.

Otherwise, apply for grad roles in back up industries 

 

Thank you for this.
For banks that only accept penultimate year students for their SA positions, is there a way to be a final year student (about to start one year MSc) and still apply to those by saying that your graduation may be delayed (due to various reasons such as a surgery, additional optional modules, failing a module and having to retake, etc...) or something along those lines?

 

Definitely not a scenario I've ever heard of before. I have no idea how HR would treat that. Would probably advise not lying to HR where possible. It's also hardly believable (how would you know about failing a module in your first week of uni?) Delayed graduations aren't really a thing here too, like they are in the US. So, just seems hard to believe. 

 

Hello,

Apologies in advance I dont meant to hijack your post OP.

I am in a sort of similar position as I am an incoming finalist in my Bachelors degree at a semi-target/non-target (Durham). Having not got a summer internship I was wondering if it would be a better idea for me to say I am doing a masters degree at Durham so I would be eligible for summer internships again. I don't plan on doing a masters yet (too expensive) and I would easily get into the Durham program as I am already there for my bachelors. Would you recommend this?

 

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